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I'm almost at this point. I just assume the GOP will cheat and win again. Maybe not this scale, but good enough.
I question if I should bother doing stuff for Bernie thinking it's futile on trying.
It's definitely not futile! I've been phonebanking for the past week and it seriously helps. The more people who get calls about Bernie and seeing the support he has, is mostly met with optimism. You won't believe how many people simply don't support Bernie because they think he is not "electable" or he is not liked by many people; a MSM talking point that has been hammered over our heads for far too long. Phonebanking allows the message to get out there and lets the average voter know that his policies are popular and that people do like him! Don't ever lose hope!
I'm doing my first phonebanking tonight! I'm excited and I believe this victory is within our grasp. It has for sure never been closer and losing hope now doesn't make much sense to me. Being ready for the fight that may be to come is one thing, but giving into it is just fatalism
I occasionally read Bernie Slack. It's amazing how many people from around the country are flooding Iowa to go canvass out there. Like people driving from California, Seattle, Texas, NYC.
Meanwhile I'm 90 minutes from Nashua and Salem (NH) and I need to get the courage to get over my anxieties and get my ass out there.
Of course it would have been less easy, but it doesn't mean that pulling a Kemp is the only way that election fuckery can happen.
As soon as you stop trying to make out my position to be "Election fuckery won't happen", you can realize that you actually don't disagree with me in any meaningful way
This is how November 2020 will go: 1. Trump "somehow" wins PA, WI, and FL by less than 20,000 votes, wins electoral college, loses popular vote by 4 million 2. House goes to republicans in a lot of 51%/49% decisions. 3. Republicans increase majority in senate, again by a bunch of dubious 51/49 decisions 4. The collective media questions "why can't democrats nominate electable candidates" 5. Some large protests in large cities, but nothing to the scale of Hong Kong. 6. We all go back to everyday life because your average american would be fired and lose their health insurance if they take too many PTO days to protest.
Winning the house in 2018 was Putin's way of letting us get our hopes up for 2020. The ballot machines are compromised.
Every state runs their own elections with different systems, 2018 put democrats in charge of more of these systems, electoral fraud on that scale is virtually impossible, this is Qanon level fearmongering
I agree I seem very paranoid and crazy, this timeline really does a number on mental health.
Of course it would have been less easy, but it doesn't mean that pulling a Kemp is the only way that election fuckery can happen.
As soon as you stop trying to make out my position to be "Election fuckery won't happen", you can realize that you actually don't disagree with me in any meaningful way
I happen to disagree with your Qanon level assessment of fear mongering. Expecting the worst is better than having hope in false saviors (not saying you are doing the latter, but shit has just gotten worst and worst and most of it was predictable).
As soon as you stop trying to make out my position to be "Election fuckery won't happen", you can realize that you actually don't disagree with me in any meaningful way
I happen to disagree with your Qanon level assessment of fear mongering. Expecting the worst is better than having hope in false saviors (not saying you are doing the latter, but shit has just gotten worst and worst and most of it was predictable).
Saying Putin let the democrats win in 2018 to give us hope is Qanon level of fear mongering.
Anybody who thought Alexander wasn't going to vote this way was deluding themselves. Some would make arguments about him being something else back in the day, but he's 1000% in lock step with whatever the RNC wants. Also, his reasoning is horseshit that he'd say was ludicrous if times were reversed.
I'm almost at this point. I just assume the GOP will cheat and win again. Maybe not this scale, but good enough.
I question if I should bother doing stuff for Bernie thinking it's futile on trying.
Seems like you'd be even more pissed about this. Let's face it, a healthy 43% of the country does not give a fuck about dictators even though they accused the last president of acting like one and screamed about it then. The majority of this 43% are complete hypocrites who don't care and don't understand the world or the country and generally have a championship wrestling fan's grasp of reality. The Republicans don't care about lying or cheating. That's how they win. They don't care about facts. They don't give a shit about justice. Fuck them. Get madder. Fight harder. Call every one of them out for their bullshit, ignorance, stupidity and whatever at every opportunity. So what if you get in a shouting match with your uncle or aunt or grandma or parent or co-worker. You already know they suck at politics. Dig that shit in on them. Do not relent. Finish them.
Nearly my entire family on the east coast are all Republican. Most of them like Trump to variable degree. Good time with the family is when I don't hear them drifting into news and politics.
I'm not sure how to challenge people on their idiotic beliefs without cussing them out, because that's where I usually go. I'm not even Facebook friends with most of them, because I prefer not to see them posting about Trump or whatever stupid shit. The gf though, she's my Facebook liaison - she'll be occassionally telling me when one of them posted something dumb.
Nina Turner would not help Bernie in Ohio and has very little name recognition or experience. She got 35% of the vote for the Secretary of State race in 2014, which even in a bad year for Dems nationwide that's just abysmal.
We also need to accept the fact that Bernie would likely be a one term president, so the VP pick really needs to be a qualified individual that has strong credentials for a 2024/2028 run
I don't expect any Dem to win Ohio at the moment. They could, I guess, but I think of it as leaning red and not a swing state for now.
I agree but I don't expect Sanders to pick someone too ideologically different. Which is why I still think Warren will be pushed for by a lot of people.
I'd really be worried about Tammy Baldwin as the VP nominee, not because of her, but because of losing a Senate seat in Wisconsin. We can't afford a misstep there, and getting the Senate back is crucial for any D presidency but almost especially Bernie.
That's basically the problem with any high profile female progressive. Special elections in Wisconsin and Mass. Most special elections benefit the GOP because of average turnout and voter suppression laws. So the other option is someone that doesn't have as much experience. Which brings back the question of how much do they actually help in the general. Perhaps not looking at the traditional angle of helping in their home state is in order.
Agree on Ohio - it's not a swing state anymore. Swing states are changing. Which was part of my comment on Wisconsin/Tammy Baldwin - I think it's barely a swing state. Florida - barely a swing state. PA and Michigan - swing states. Arizona, North Carolina, Virginia - new swing states. Georgia, Texas - emerging swing states?
I think a progressive female from Massachusetts would be fine. I think Bernie, more than Biden, could use Stacey Abrams.
Post by SupeЯfuЯЯyanimal on Feb 1, 2020 22:03:57 GMT -5
Fucking lol
Even Nate Cohn doesn't really get what's up with this.
Whatever the reason, the media needs to get their shit together. This is the shit that makes people think it's rigged.
Seems it was bad for Pete. Goodish for Bernie. If Pete is falling then we gotta hope it's going to Warren or Amy. Otherwise the realignment gets really dicey. I still think Pete gets 15%
See also: having Bloomberg rammed down everyone's throats
I am really good at disengaging involvement for ads on social media, Bloomberg ads have penetrated every video platform. The last week has been at least two dozen ads online; I can't imagine what day time TV is like right now.
The DNC and moderates are fucking terrified. When I called out the hypocrisy for the never Bernie, vote blue no matter who people, I was attacked and told Bernie is a commie.