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The weird thing about MCR is that before they broke up they never played fests like Coachella and now they are probably going to play a bunch of them. It’ll be interesting to see what kind of crowds they draw.
Might be an outlier but many of their last shows were at Big Day Out and Voodoo Fest in 2011/2, which are in the same mold as Coachella as I understand it.
I think we could be overestimating that mid-00's base too. Is there really an untapped base that did not attend festivals over the last 15 years and are suddenly about to come out for MCR? I have my doubts. I'm sure they will draw a decent crowd, but I also feel like they are being inflated a bit.
I saw MCR on their last run in 2011. I was just starting 8th grade. Also almost every one of my friends would absolutely spend good money to see them now that we have disposable income/live autonomously to their parents.
I would also say that for the most part I have a pretty bro-y social circle
Didn't they draw like 20 people last time? lol ( )
Yeah they got one of the worst set times anyone could get, especially for a real soft band like them. Second-to-last in the Gobi Sunday 2017 against Justice, New Order, Marshmello, and the very beginning of Kendrick. Add the Yuma and Do Lab, and yeah, 20 people or something like that.
And they were really unhappy about it. I think they played an F-U set of just new stuff and no past "hits"
I think we could be overestimating that mid-00's base too. Is there really an untapped base that did not attend festivals over the last 15 years and are suddenly about to come out for MCR? I have my doubts. I'm sure they will draw a decent crowd, but I also feel like they are being inflated a bit.
Yeah, they were kids and just went to warped tour, nothing else. This base is ready to spend some bucks, although scoffing they would play coachella which is hilarious. I wonder if MCR is the other name at Boston Calling. Wouldnt be a stretch unless it is the 1975 and mcr is under foo fighters.
Theyre all freaking out that there has been little news now and will have to wait until january.
It just seems like this demo was already out spending bucks. Most diehards will probably catch them at city dates. The general MCR-hype at Coachella will likely be from fans of theirs who were already going to go anyways. Will they lure in a few people on the fence? Probably. Will it be enough to even notice? Probably not.
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I went to Lollapalooza in 2017 and every afternoon set was dead except like a 1 PM set by Modern Baseball, where teenagers were going bonkers and people my age (late 20s at the time) were nodding in approval in the back. I know its a bit apples/oranges (Emo third wave vs. fourth wave) but I've always been shocked at how the emo scene is filled with the combination of a.) such devoted die-hards who get their self-identity from this stuff and b.) casual listeners who recognize bits of everything (who wouldn't want to at least see a bit of The Black Parade?) and yet the near-complete lack of representation for the genre at mainstream fests.
Nobody wants to admit it post-Lacey accusations, but the Brand New set in the Mojave in 2015 was one of the most intense Coachella sets I've ever seen. For this festival that gets roughed up by everyone in the media (and artists!) for having bad rock crowds, that place felt like the scene of an earthquake for 50 minutes. If MCR gets booked for their first "mainstream festival" sub/headline set, I think it's another case of PT being ahead of the curve and seeing all the things happening in the emo scene today and recognizing the power of this booking.
I saw MCR on their last run in 2011. I was just starting 8th grade.
I’m not that old but statements like this make me feel like it lol
I hear that. My group is in their early 30s and only 1 individual out of 14 attending this year was excited for the MCR reunion news. It’s weird because everyone in my group grew up listening to primarily rock music. Rage on the other hand had like 12 of the 14 salivating at the mouth. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
I went to Lollapalooza in 2017 and every afternoon set was dead except like a 1 PM set by Modern Baseball, where teenagers were going bonkers and people my age (late 20s at the time) were nodding in approval in the back. I know its a bit apples/oranges (Emo third wave vs. fourth wave) but I've always been shocked at how the emo scene is filled with the combination of a.) such devoted die-hards who get their self-identity from this stuff and b.) casual listeners who recognize bits of everything (who wouldn't want to at least see a bit of The Black Parade?) and yet the near-complete lack of representation for the genre at mainstream fests.
Nobody wants to admit it post-Lacey accusations, but the Brand New set in the Mojave in 2015 was one of the most intense Coachella sets I've ever seen. For this festival that gets roughed up by everyone in the media (and artists!) for having bad rock crowds, that place felt like the scene of an earthquake for 50 minutes. If MCR gets booked for their first "mainstream festival" sub/headline set, I think it's another case of PT being ahead of the curve and seeing all the things happening in the emo scene today and recognizing the power of this booking.
Brand New is an amazing live band and I'm still gutted at what happened. I agree that festivals should book more emo/post harcore bands. only mainstream one that really does is boston calling with menzingers, citizen, hotelier, etc.
I think we could be overestimating that mid-00's base too. Is there really an untapped base that did not attend festivals over the last 15 years and are suddenly about to come out for MCR? I have my doubts. I'm sure they will draw a decent crowd, but I also feel like they are being inflated a bit.
I know a BUNCH of people who bought AMEX presale tickets once the MCR rumors came in. Considering how hard it is to get tickets for them (sold out in minutes and resale is currently going for more than a grand), I think it's safe to say they will move a shit load of 2020 tickets.
I'm not arguing that they won't draw well here. I'm just saying that much of the draw will be made up of people already planning to go.
edit: for comparison's sake many were psyched and jumped on board after the RATM announcement, but in my experience most of those types were already considering Coachella anyways. They might move some of my more settled down friends to catch them at a city date, but they aren't packing their shit for SoCal by any means.
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I’m not that old but statements like this make me feel like it lol
I hear that. My group is in their early 30s and only 1 individual out of 14 attending this year was excited for the MCR reunion news. It’s weird because everyone in my group grew up listening to primarily rock music. Rage on the other hand had like 12 of the 14 salivating at the mouth. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
One of my group of friends is around early to mid 30s and a majority of them are ecstatic about MCR. Go figure.
I'm not arguing that they won't draw well here. I'm just saying that much of the draw will be made up of people already planning to go.
edit: for comparison's sake many were psyched and jumped on board after the RATM announcement, but in my experience most of those types were already considering Coachella anyways. They might move some of my more settled down friends to catch them at a city date, but they aren't packing their shit for SoCal by any means.
Fwiw I feel like my age group is the primary demo for Coachella. Coachella is very current and almost anyone I talk to has a “yeah I wanna go to that someday” mentality about it. Pair that with MCR who is huge with my age group as we grew up with them and I feel like that would be a big selling point for what is at least a very significant portion of their demographic. It mixes the old with the new
The Coachella page for the AMEX sale says "max 4 passes per person."
I bought 1 pass a while ago through this sale for myself, then just recently bought 4 more with the same card when friends confirmed...any risk of them cancelling/refunding any of this since I have a total of 5 passes on my account purchased through two different transactions but on the same AMEX card? Or am I good?
Last year, I bought a third with the same card with which I bought the first two. Sale denied.
I'm not arguing that they won't draw well here. I'm just saying that much of the draw will be made up of people already planning to go.
edit: for comparison's sake many were psyched and jumped on board after the RATM announcement, but in my experience most of those types were already considering Coachella anyways. They might move some of my more settled down friends to catch them at a city date, but they aren't packing their shit for SoCal by any means.
Fwiw I feel like my age group is the primary demo for Coachella. Coachella is very current and almost anyone I talk to has a “yeah I wanna go to that someday” mentality about it. Pair that with MCR who is huge with my age group as we grew up with them and I feel like that would be a big selling point for what is at least a very significant portion of their demographic. It mixes the old with the new
This kind of reinforces what I was trying to say. Some new prospects might show up, but it just seems like this demo has already been around with money in hand. The vast majority will skip festival dates for a more convenient location.
I just don't think we will see a significant increase of first timers who are specifically motivated by the presence of MCR. I could certainly be wrong though.
Well that’s hard to justify. They will have a crowded set and it’s hard to just go “ehh y’all was gonna come anyway”
Brand New is a good example of a mainstream band that people might not have specifically bought a ticket for, but still drew well out of familiarity/convenience. It’s possible MCR could play that part as well.
Post by problem dog on Nov 13, 2019 16:59:06 GMT -5
I think MCR would have been lock for a sub spot if Coachella was the first announced show, but it wouldn't shock me to see them 3rd or 4th on their day. Coach won't even be their first announced festival date.
I think we could be overestimating that mid-00's base too. Is there really an untapped base that did not attend festivals over the last 15 years and are suddenly about to come out for MCR? I have my doubts. I'm sure they will draw a decent crowd, but I also feel like they are being inflated a bit.
I was 16 when they broke up. Never had the chance to see them. A lot of us weren't old enough to have our own concert/festival money yet, but we do now. People will show out for them trust me.
Well that’s hard to justify. They will have a crowded set and it’s hard to just go “ehh y’all was gonna come anyway”
Brand New is a good example of a mainstream band that people might not have specifically bought a ticket for, but still drew well out of familiarity/convenience. It’s possible MCR could play that part as well.
The difference is it was not that tough to see Brand New. The Shrine sale was a letdown for a lot of ppl, and they might not want to risk that happening again (or if they’re in LA they might think that was their once chance, and feel like they have to do Coachella). I think they’ll move more tickets than your typical #2-3 on a day.
As someone who has a gf who is way into all that cheeseball emo shit, I’ve been to plenty of those kind of shows over the years and those people ride for it hard as hell. And honestly, they’re way more pleasant to deal with than, say, a Travis Scott crowd.
It’s honestly confusing to me that more mainstream fests don’t try to go after that niche. If Taking Back Sunday played at Coachella, I think they’d probably draw as big a crowd as Thom Yorke or whatever would be up against them.
i wasn't born when The Black Parade came out, but got really into them when i was first learning to walk, so i have loads of nostalgia for them from my toddler years. now that i am officially a teenager i'll definitely be going to coachella to see them for the first time.
Brand New is a good example of a mainstream band that people might not have specifically bought a ticket for, but still drew well out of familiarity/convenience. It’s possible MCR could play that part as well.
The difference is it was not that tough to see Brand New. The Shrine sale was a letdown for a lot of ppl, and they might not want to risk that happening again (or if they’re in LA they might think that was their once chance, and feel like they have to do Coachella). I think they’ll move more tickets than your typical #2-3 on a day.
The first show back is going to have more of a demand then the Coachella gig. Maybe I’m underestimating the population of LA though. Then the question comes to mind, how many will just catch them casually because they were going to the festival anyways? Perhaps that’s just an unfair question. They are definitely a solid sub and super-strong third, but it just feels like festival forums have overhyped them a bit. I think it’s a cool booking in any case. If they are on Sunday (which is traditionally lite) then I could see them drawing very well. I am one of those casual fans who would show up to an early evening set.
As someone who has a gf who is way into all that cheeseball emo shit, I’ve been to plenty of those kind of shows over the years and those people ride for it hard as hell. And honestly, they’re way more pleasant to deal with than, say, a Travis Scott crowd.
It’s honestly confusing to me that more mainstream fests don’t try to go after that niche. If Taking Back Sunday played at Coachella, I think they’d probably draw as big a crowd as Thom Yorke or whatever would be up against them.
Post by mrjamesmurphy on Nov 13, 2019 18:03:46 GMT -5
We have a emo/metal venue in Denver that will get decent bookings. I've seen DFA1975, Tigers Jaw, American Football, Minus The Bear, and The Frights there all pretty recently. I'm constantly shocked at how packed the shows are for the "emo" crowd. People who still worship this genre are absolutely out there, and MCR will draw them out to Coachella.
No LA date on YBN Cordae’s tour, but he’s playing Northern CA and the rest of the SW. Count him in.
Looked up his dates just out of curiousity and he's playing in my city this weekend! The new album is great, so I might scoop up a ticket unless anyone's heard anything about him being bad live
I saw him at Lolla, very fun time. Scoop up that ticket for sure
The difference is it was not that tough to see Brand New. The Shrine sale was a letdown for a lot of ppl, and they might not want to risk that happening again (or if they’re in LA they might think that was their once chance, and feel like they have to do Coachella). I think they’ll move more tickets than your typical #2-3 on a day.
The first show back is going to have more of a demand then the Coachella gig. Maybe I’m underestimating the population of LA though. Then the question comes to mind, how many will just catch them casually because they were going to the festival anyways? Perhaps that’s just an unfair question. They are definitely a solid sub and super-strong third, but it just feels like festival forums have overhyped them a bit. I think it’s a cool booking in any case. If they are on Sunday (which is traditionally lite) then I could see them drawing very well. I am one of those casual fans who would show up to an early evening set.
If anything, the fact we’re talking about My Chemical Romance being billed 3rd for one of their first shows back make me think this festival forum is under-hyping them.