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Is that show not selling well enough that they have to do deals like this? Thought Chance was huge.
The whole tour has been selling terribly. His new album didn't do well commercially and got poor reviews, so I guess his steam has died down. The B1G1 deal went pretty quickly, though. It was all in 200 sections, $39 before fees. I would've liked to have grabbed a pair.
Definitely a valid point on his new album. However I think a big factor is ticket prices have gotten too insane for arena shows over the last 5 years and we are seeing a bubble bursting. In my city a few years ago even the hottest acts you could get floor or decent lower level seats for $80 (face value price I paid for Kendrick Lamar in 100 level seats in 2017). Now it's $120 minimum (Chance), and the hotter acts going for $200+ (Post Malone). I don't want to go into a political rant, but wages haven't risen at that same rate. That's also why you're seeing more and more sales coming closer to the date of the concert than the day tickets go on sale. People are waiting to see if prices drop or if B1G1 deals happen.
The whole tour has been selling terribly. His new album didn't do well commercially and got poor reviews, so I guess his steam has died down. The B1G1 deal went pretty quickly, though. It was all in 200 sections, $39 before fees. I would've liked to have grabbed a pair.
Definitely a valid point on his new album. However I think a big factor is ticket prices have gotten too insane for arena shows over the last 5 years and we are seeing a bubble bursting. In my city a few years ago even the hottest acts you could get floor or decent lower level seats for $80 (face value price I paid for Kendrick Lamar in 100 level seats in 2017). Now it's $120 minimum (Chance), and the hotter acts going for $200+ (Post Malone). I don't want to go into a political rant, but wages haven't risen at that same rate. That's also why you're seeing more and more sales coming closer to the date of the concert than the day tickets go on sale. People are waiting to see if prices drop or if B1G1 deals happen.
Depends on the artist/promoter/Ticketmaster/etc. A lot of arena acts have stayed reasonably priced, but others are pushing the limits. In the end, I think it comes down to artist love and hype. Billie Eilish did well with higher prices, but who wants to see Chance perform in an arena in 2019 or 2020?
I love New York. But I hate coat check in the winter.
Belated but this reminds me. What is everyone's strategy in dealing with coats when on a GA Floor in an arena. I know MSG just started to have a coat check but I don't...think...Barclays does yet. I have a strategy where I bring an empty laptop bag which they'll usually make me check at guest services so I stuff my coat into that. Any other helpful ideas?
Wrap around my waist. For that reason, I never bring fancy coats.
Do you want to dance while also thinking about all the ways you've failed as a human?
UPCOMING SHOWS 5/14 - Neil Young & Crazy Horse @ Forest Hills 6/8 and maybe 6/9 - Governors Ball 8/17 - King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard @ Forest Hills 9/4 - Pearl Jam @ MSG 9/7 - Pearl Jam @ Wells Fargo Center 9/11 - St. Vincent @ Brooklyn Paramount
Post by Fozzie Bear on Dec 26, 2019 12:36:44 GMT -5
I know this isn't directly music related, but had a question: where would you all recommended living in NY? It's very possible my family moves up there soon, and I've begun shopping around possible neighborhoods. Shortlist:
Astoria Bushwick Bedford-Stuyvesant Sunnyside Fort Greene
Budget is around $3k/month for a 2-3 bedroom, if possible. We're heading there this weekend and all of next week to look around. Right now on paper Astoria and Bushwick win out, but Bushwick has a big plus of being super close to the spots we'd likely frequent (Nowadays, Brooklyn Steel, Knockdown Center, etc.).
I know this isn't directly music related, but had a question: where would you all recommended living in NY? It's very possible my family moves up there soon, and I've begun shopping around possible neighborhoods. Shortlist:
Astoria Bushwick Bedford-Stuyvesant Sunnyside Fort Greene
Budget is around $3k/month for a 2-3 bedroom, if possible. We're heading there this weekend and all of next week to look around. Right now on paper Astoria and Bushwick win out, but Bushwick has a big plus of being super close to the spots we'd likely frequent (Nowadays, Brooklyn Steel, Knockdown Center, etc.).
Bushwick resident here, can’t recommend it enough for someone into bars and live music, I love being so close to Williamsburg, as well as Elsewhere and the venues you mentioned.
I know this isn't directly music related, but had a question: where would you all recommended living in NY? It's very possible my family moves up there soon, and I've begun shopping around possible neighborhoods. Shortlist:
Astoria Bushwick Bedford-Stuyvesant Sunnyside Fort Greene
Budget is around $3k/month for a 2-3 bedroom, if possible. We're heading there this weekend and all of next week to look around. Right now on paper Astoria and Bushwick win out, but Bushwick has a big plus of being super close to the spots we'd likely frequent (Nowadays, Brooklyn Steel, Knockdown Center, etc.).
Fort Greene is really nice but really pricey. I lived in Astoria for several years and absolutely loved it. Sunnyside not much is going on there but it's safe and like a 10 minute subway into the city.
I'm leaving Forest Hills now to move back into Manhattan, but if you're coming with family I'd totally recommend it there. Very family oriented, quiet, clean, and lots of ways to get into the city (15 minutes via the LIRR, 30 minutes via the E/F express train). Plus you got the Forest Hills Stadium for good outdoor summer shows.
I know this isn't directly music related, but had a question: where would you all recommended living in NY? It's very possible my family moves up there soon, and I've begun shopping around possible neighborhoods. Shortlist:
Astoria Bushwick Bedford-Stuyvesant Sunnyside Fort Greene
Budget is around $3k/month for a 2-3 bedroom, if possible. We're heading there this weekend and all of next week to look around. Right now on paper Astoria and Bushwick win out, but Bushwick has a big plus of being super close to the spots we'd likely frequent (Nowadays, Brooklyn Steel, Knockdown Center, etc.).
Bushwick resident here, can’t recommend it enough for someone into bars and live music, I love being so close to Williamsburg, as well as Elsewhere and the venues you mentioned.
Bushwick seems very much like a more affordable Williamsburg; makes sense why a lot of the popping music venues are moving to the area. Thank ya!
I know this isn't directly music related, but had a question: where would you all recommended living in NY? It's very possible my family moves up there soon, and I've begun shopping around possible neighborhoods. Shortlist:
Astoria Bushwick Bedford-Stuyvesant Sunnyside Fort Greene
Budget is around $3k/month for a 2-3 bedroom, if possible. We're heading there this weekend and all of next week to look around. Right now on paper Astoria and Bushwick win out, but Bushwick has a big plus of being super close to the spots we'd likely frequent (Nowadays, Brooklyn Steel, Knockdown Center, etc.).
Fort Greene is really nice but really pricey. I lived in Astoria for several years and absolutely loved it. Sunnyside not much is going on there but it's safe and like a 10 minute subway into the city.
I'm leaving Forest Hills now to move back into Manhattan, but if you're coming with family I'd totally recommend it there. Very family oriented, quiet, clean, and lots of ways to get into the city (15 minutes via the LIRR, 30 minutes via the E/F express train). Plus you got the Forest Hills Stadium for good outdoor summer shows.
Astoria looks great for space and being near Astoria Park (we have dogs and looks like Astoria Park has off-leash hours). Forest Hills looks cool and roomy, but a big too far out for my liking. Thanks for the insight!
I know this isn't directly music related, but had a question: where would you all recommended living in NY? It's very possible my family moves up there soon, and I've begun shopping around possible neighborhoods. Shortlist:
Astoria Bushwick Bedford-Stuyvesant Sunnyside Fort Greene
Budget is around $3k/month for a 2-3 bedroom, if possible. We're heading there this weekend and all of next week to look around. Right now on paper Astoria and Bushwick win out, but Bushwick has a big plus of being super close to the spots we'd likely frequent (Nowadays, Brooklyn Steel, Knockdown Center, etc.).
Current Astoria Resident - I think it might just depend on what suits your lifestyle better. There is probably more stuff happening in Bushwick in addition to better bars/music, but Astoria is a little bit cheaper and you could find an apartment that gives you more space. This is all anecdotal but most apartments I've seen in Astoria are decently bigger than those that my friends in Bushwick have.
That said, I probably go to brooklyn about twice a month to see friends or music and the journey can be annoying at night. I'll usually try to take transit there and then end up taking an uber home because otherwise it would just take too long. If you're planning on going out more, this may be more of a burden.
I've been in Astoria now for 3 years and I really love it. There's still plenty to do, I have a nice sized apartment for what I pay, my commute into manhattan is easy, and its still relatively quiet and peaceful. I would definitely recommend it.
I know this isn't directly music related, but had a question: where would you all recommended living in NY? It's very possible my family moves up there soon, and I've begun shopping around possible neighborhoods. Shortlist:
Astoria Bushwick Bedford-Stuyvesant Sunnyside Fort Greene
Budget is around $3k/month for a 2-3 bedroom, if possible. We're heading there this weekend and all of next week to look around. Right now on paper Astoria and Bushwick win out, but Bushwick has a big plus of being super close to the spots we'd likely frequent (Nowadays, Brooklyn Steel, Knockdown Center, etc.).
Current Astoria Resident - I think it might just depend on what suits your lifestyle better. There is probably more stuff happening in Bushwick in addition to better bars/music, but Astoria is a little bit cheaper and you could find an apartment that gives you more space. This is all anecdotal but most apartments I've seen in Astoria are decently bigger than those that my friends in Bushwick have.
That said, I probably go to brooklyn about twice a month to see friends or music and the journey can be annoying at night. I'll usually try to take transit there and then end up taking an uber home because otherwise it would just take too long. If you're planning on going out more, this may be more of a burden.
I've been in Astoria now for 3 years and I really love it. There's still plenty to do, I have a nice sized apartment for what I pay, my commute into manhattan is easy, and its still relatively quiet and peaceful. I would definitely recommend it.
Awesome, thanks! Astoria on paper looks perfect all aside the distance from music venues we’d frequent. We will see which neighbor suits our needs more
If you have young/school age kids then I would probably not do Bushwick, not as oriented to families as the others although nearby Ridgewood could work. Bed-Stuy also neighbors to the SW.
5/1 Belle & Sebastian 5/17 Echo & the Bunnymen 6/7 Hozier 6/8 Governors Ball 6/20 Future Islands 6/27 Silversun Pickups 7/25 Billy Joel 8/5 Green Day/Smashing Pumpkins, etc. 8/21 The Gaslight Anthem 9/7 Bikini Kill 9/10 St. Vincent 9/13 The National, TWOD, Lucius 9/14 PULP 9/27 IDLES/The Walkmen 10/3 Brittany Howard/Michael Kiwanuka 10/4 Bleachers 10/6 Vampire Weekend 10/9 Sting
If you have young/school age kids then I would probably not do Bushwick, not as oriented to families as the others although nearby Ridgewood could work. Bed-Stuy also neighbors to the SW.
I should've specified a dog/cat family, aside from my fiancée and I lol
Bushwick doesn't appear to have a lot of green spaces, so that could pose a problem.
I know this isn't directly music related, but had a question: where would you all recommended living in NY? It's very possible my family moves up there soon, and I've begun shopping around possible neighborhoods. Shortlist:
Astoria Bushwick Bedford-Stuyvesant Sunnyside Fort Greene
Budget is around $3k/month for a 2-3 bedroom, if possible. We're heading there this weekend and all of next week to look around. Right now on paper Astoria and Bushwick win out, but Bushwick has a big plus of being super close to the spots we'd likely frequent (Nowadays, Brooklyn Steel, Knockdown Center, etc.).
Astoria resident, here. For what you're looking to spend, you could get a pretty nice apartment in this neighborhood, especially if you're looking out by Astoria Park and/or outside the area bounded by 31st Street/Steinway and 30th Avenue/34th Avenue. This neighborhood definitely has its pluses - ease of access to Manhattan, GREAT food options, a decent nightlife, a bit more of a residential vibe than some other spots. It's also fairly affordable relative to other neighborhoods, even thought the hyper-gentrification tide has started to rise.
There is almost zero live music scene here, though - there are only, say, 3 or so venues, and they're widely scattered and aren't great on the sound front. And if you're going to be spending a lot of time in Brooklyn, it's not the easiest trip there - taking the G is viable assuming all the trains are running, but it's still a hike disproportionate to how geographically close the two boros are, and the BQE can sometimes be absolute murder, traffic-wise. That said, my wife and I go to a ton of shows at Brooklyn Steel and such and have managed to make it work - it's just a bit of a thing in terms of travel and has meant a lot of late-night Lyft-ing.
Anyhoo, I've been in this neighborhood for 8 years, my wife for 10, and we love it and are planning to stick around for a while, so if that counts as an endorsement... Definitely feel free to drop me a line if you have any Astoria-specific questions - happy to help however I can.
Do you want to dance while also thinking about all the ways you've failed as a human?
UPCOMING SHOWS 5/14 - Neil Young & Crazy Horse @ Forest Hills 6/8 and maybe 6/9 - Governors Ball 8/17 - King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard @ Forest Hills 9/4 - Pearl Jam @ MSG 9/7 - Pearl Jam @ Wells Fargo Center 9/11 - St. Vincent @ Brooklyn Paramount
I know this isn't directly music related, but had a question: where would you all recommended living in NY? It's very possible my family moves up there soon, and I've begun shopping around possible neighborhoods. Shortlist:
Astoria Bushwick Bedford-Stuyvesant Sunnyside Fort Greene
Budget is around $3k/month for a 2-3 bedroom, if possible. We're heading there this weekend and all of next week to look around. Right now on paper Astoria and Bushwick win out, but Bushwick has a big plus of being super close to the spots we'd likely frequent (Nowadays, Brooklyn Steel, Knockdown Center, etc.).
Astoria resident, here. For what you're looking to spend, you could get a pretty nice apartment in this neighborhood, especially if you're looking out by Astoria Park and/or outside the area bounded by 31st Street/Steinway and 30th Avenue/34th Avenue. This neighborhood definitely has its pluses - ease of access to Manhattan, GREAT food options, a decent nightlife, a bit more of a residential vibe than some other spots. It's also fairly affordable relative to other neighborhoods, even thought the hyper-gentrification tide has started to rise.
There is almost zero live music scene here, though - there are only, say, 3 or so venues, and they're widely scattered and aren't great on the sound front. And if you're going to be spending a lot of time in Brooklyn, it's not the easiest trip there - taking the G is viable assuming all the trains are running, but it's still a hike disproportionate to how geographically close the two boros are, and the BQE can sometimes be absolute murder, traffic-wise. That said, my wife and I go to a ton of shows at Brooklyn Steel and such and have managed to make it work - it's just a bit of a thing in terms of travel and has meant a lot of late-night Lyft-ing.
Anyhoo, I've been in this neighborhood for 8 years, my wife for 10, and we love it and are planning to stick around for a while, so if that counts as an endorsement... Definitely feel free to drop me a line if you have any Astoria-specific questions - happy to help however I can.
Thanks so much for the insight. Astoria is lower on our list now, but no reason it can’t be a place we could eventually move to in the future. Right now Bushwick or Crown Heights/Park Slope/Prospect Heights areas seem the most attractive.
Post by manoverboard on Dec 31, 2019 14:49:51 GMT -5
I know Crown Heights is being gentrified, but that still isn't a neighborhood I'd be comfortable walking around at night. Bushwick is nice especially if you're up by the East Williamsburg area. Park Slope is definitely the nicest of your choices, it's just further down in Brooklyn making your commute into Manhattan longer.
I had a lot of options to move to Bushwick but the trains around there are so poky and would not have made my work commute any better so I opted for elsewhere. Prospect Heights is very nice, and a lot of transport options. Of course, Park Slope is nice but transport-wise depends on where in PS you are at - your options are better the closer to Flatbush Ave. you are - the subway along Flatbush is good. Further down, the F can be slow, the R I used to call the Rarely Runs from when I lived in Bay Ridge. I live just south of Crown Heights now - it's rapidly gentrifying, especially north of Eastern Parkway. If you stay in the western part it's better and there's a bunch of restaurants and bars by Franklin Ave. If considering stuff around there just go at night to see how you feel. Also, what I call the "hipster line" buses (hehe, I call it that because a lot of them are moving my way now but still work/socialize up there and take the bus) run through there and will get you to Greenpoint, Williamsburg and East Williamsburg.
5/1 Belle & Sebastian 5/17 Echo & the Bunnymen 6/7 Hozier 6/8 Governors Ball 6/20 Future Islands 6/27 Silversun Pickups 7/25 Billy Joel 8/5 Green Day/Smashing Pumpkins, etc. 8/21 The Gaslight Anthem 9/7 Bikini Kill 9/10 St. Vincent 9/13 The National, TWOD, Lucius 9/14 PULP 9/27 IDLES/The Walkmen 10/3 Brittany Howard/Michael Kiwanuka 10/4 Bleachers 10/6 Vampire Weekend 10/9 Sting
Post by jorgeandthekraken on Jan 10, 2020 14:23:25 GMT -5
So, Pearl Jam just sent out this mysterious thing that says you're supposed to look at certain images in a handful of cities through the Facebook or Instagram camera lens. I'm assuming it's teasing something.
One of the markers is in NYC.
I will straight freak if this is a show announcement.
Do you want to dance while also thinking about all the ways you've failed as a human?
UPCOMING SHOWS 5/14 - Neil Young & Crazy Horse @ Forest Hills 6/8 and maybe 6/9 - Governors Ball 8/17 - King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard @ Forest Hills 9/4 - Pearl Jam @ MSG 9/7 - Pearl Jam @ Wells Fargo Center 9/11 - St. Vincent @ Brooklyn Paramount
So, Pearl Jam just sent out this mysterious thing that says you're supposed to look at certain images in a handful of cities through the Facebook or Instagram camera lens. I'm assuming it's teasing something.
One of the markers is in NYC.
I will straight freak if this is a show announcement.
Pearl Jam message board seems to think its a new album and each location will have a preview of an album track. They also have a lot of tour rumors including New York. Either way, tour and/or album announcement seems like it''ll be coming shortly