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It's a facetious remark or do I have to refer you to "Sweetness" here:
Of course it's facetious, but his previous, non-facetious calls-to-arms have proven effective. In a recent, out-of-character interview, he said his staff actually has serious discussions about what to call on his fans to do since they, you know, tend to do it. Still, I think most of his core audience is smart enough to understand the joke, but it was still a little jarring to watch given recent events.
His fans tend to be intelligent, college-educated people who can identify sarcastic/facetious remarks when they hear them. You should recognize the target audience before you make blanket statements about them.
They pulled Foster The People's song "Pumped Up Kicks" from radio-play following the Connecticut school shooting. Apparently it's okay to sing/play songs about school shootings except after it actually happens.
I don't find the song offensive or anything. It's just interesting how these things work sometimes.
Kesha's new single "Die Young" has also been yanked from a ton of radio stations.
Yea I read about that too....just don't know the song/lyrics of that one and didn't feel the need to look them up haha. I did know about Pumped Up Kicks being about shooting up a school though.
Firefighters from NYC and beyond have come to Newtown to create a shield and block anticipated protestors today at funerals. We won't mention the groups name as they - simply put - don't deserve the recognition.
Thank you firefighters.
Also, someone hacked the church's database and released addresses & phone #'s for all the higher-ups in that group. I'd be very interested to see what gets sent to them (I hope no one sends anything to cause actual harm because it'll make these scumbags out to be victims, but a huge box of horse sh** may be a start).
Also, someone hacked the church's database and released addresses & phone #'s for all the higher-ups in that group. I'd be very interested to see what gets sent to them (I hope no one sends anything to cause actual harm because it'll make these scumbags out to be victims, but a huge box of horse sh** may be a start).
The hackers also infiltrated their leader's Twitter page and is trying to have the White House recognize the WBC as a hate group. Major props to the organizers of this attack. Those goons have been running a muck for far too long.
His fans tend to be intelligent, college-educated people who can identify sarcastic/facetious remarks when they hear them. You should recognize the target audience before you make blanket statements about them.
Robin Williams: Mister Reagan, in the dictionary under redundant it says: see redundant
His fans tend to be intelligent, college-educated people who can identify sarcastic/facetious remarks when they hear them. You should recognize the target audience before you make blanket statements about them.
Robin Williams: Mister Reagan, in the dictionary under redundant it says: see redundant
Reagan: Well, you can say that again.
Well, it's not redundant when the person asking the question asks it in spite of the fact they already have the answer.
Well, it's not redundant when the person asking the question asks it in spite of the fact they already have the answer.
So just to be clear, you have a beef with the suggestion that maybe comedians shouldn't even jest about telling theirs fans to raise up in mock violence four days after something like Newtown?
Well, it's not redundant when the person asking the question asks it in spite of the fact they already have the answer.
So just to be clear, you have a beef with the suggestion that maybe comedians shouldn't even jest about telling theirs fans to raise up in mock violence four days after something like Newtown?
When the comedian in question is doing so in order to bring to light a situation that people have taken lightly for decades, and by doing so is actually mocking the people who support legislation and laws that support the current system of gun control?
Yeah, I'm okay with that.
I'm not okay with the insinuation that people who watch his show are mindless lemmings that will run to a gun store and start shooting people on the way out because Colbert told them to "rise up." Hyperbole, dude, sort it out.
I'm not okay with the insinuation that people who watch his show are mindless lemmings that will run to a gun store and start shooting people on the way out because Colbert told them to "rise up." Hyperbole, dude, sort it out.
Dude, calm the quack down. I wasn't suggesting that it would incite actual violence, just that it was perhaps a too soon/poor taste scenario. I mean, Craig Ferguson went back and edited his nightly "It's a great day for America" out of the monologue, and some tv series nixed new episodes that dealt with school violence, and yet we have Colbert saying "Tonight, ladies and gentlemen, I am calling on all of America's disenfranchised minorities to violently rise up against the white male patriarchy...Please do something frightening between now and the midterm elections."
By the way, I'm part of Colbert's "intelligent, college-educated people who can identify sarcastic/facetious remarks when they hear them." I've actually been to see his show in person several times and loved the rest of that episode even. It just seemed a little out of place.
If you don't have the conversation now, you're never going to have it. People need to let go of the "too soon" angle and realize that the "too soon" line of thinking is what's kept this from becoming a sustained and intelligent discussion about the issue at hand.
I'm very calm, I just think you weren't phrasing things very well.
When I'm riled up I assume you'll know it. I use a lot of all caps and curses.
If you don't have the conversation now, you're never going to have it. People need to let go of the "too soon" angle and realize that the "too soon" line of thinking is what's kept this from becoming a sustained and intelligent discussion about the issue at hand.
I wonder if that's how you'd feel if it had been one of your children and, looking to escape reality for a half-hour, you turned on comedy central last night to find your favorite host calling on the country to rise up in violence.
Well, it's not redundant when the person asking the question asks it in spite of the fact they already have the answer.
So just to be clear, you have a beef with the suggestion that maybe comedians shouldn't even jest about telling theirs fans to raise up in mock violence four days after something like Newtown?
Well it's a little different in my eyes. It's not like Colbert recorded/stated those things on the day of the shooting (or right after) and decided not to edit them out. It was a rerun about a different story unrelated to the Newtown shootings. Maybe it is a bit tasteless to some people but it's different than him just telling his fans to rise up with violence after the shooting. He did that before the shooting for an unrelated comedy segment/bit.
Had this content been filmed the day of or shortly after the shootings I'd say yea....they should not have done that.
If you don't have the conversation now, you're never going to have it. People need to let go of the "too soon" angle and realize that the "too soon" line of thinking is what's kept this from becoming a sustained and intelligent discussion about the issue at hand.
I wonder if that's how you'd feel if it had been one of your children and, looking to escape reality for a half-hour, you turned on comedy central last night to find your favorite host calling on the country to rise up in violence.
He'd probably feel different. But that's not the case here. If any parents turned on Comedy Central and were offended by the rerun they can complain to Comedy Central.
We can't censor every single thing. I'm sure there are other shows that still aired that featured guns and shootings and murders.....should we just take all potentially offensive material off the air following tragedies?
I wonder if that's how you'd feel if it had been one of your children and, looking to escape reality for a half-hour, you turned on comedy central last night to find your favorite host calling on the country to rise up in violence.
I'll refrain from my typical sarcastic comments so you don't think I'm being loud, but really man?
I am simply saying that anyone watching that show knows it's not a call to arms. It's a facetious play on words going at the NRA and anyone who is choosing to puff out their chest about freedoms in the face of such tragedy. The timing is not off, because there is no timing for this discussion if you go off the past.
And I don't have children. I hope that I do one day, but I don't right now. It would be irresponsible for anyone without kids to try and assume the feelings that parents are going through. But supposing I did, I wouldn't expect Colbert or Jon Stewart to simply ignore the subject. They're on Comedy Central, but they are both political shows that go beyond the typical d*ck joke humor of Tosh.0. And, again, at no point was he seriously calling the country to rise up violently. What else would he have had to do to make you feel it was fake enough?
Or should we never discuss guns after a shooting in this country? Which, based on the recent trend, would be never?
I don't know why you're getting worked up over me disagreeing with you, but that's your right, I guess.
Post by EthnicallyCrimean98476 on Dec 19, 2012 15:15:01 GMT -5
You're confusing depictions of violence within the narrative of TV shows with Colbert using hyperbole to make a point about the absurdity of anti-gun control proponents.
You're confusing depictions of violence within the narrative of TV shows with Colbert using hyperbole to make a point about the absurdity of anti-gun control proponents.
Ah, so whereas Family Guy uses cartoonishly exaggerated depictions of violence to get a laugh, Colbert uses cartoonishly exaggerated descriptions of violence to get a laugh. I see the difference now.
Edit: Again, when Seth MacFarlane and Craig Ferguson are being more sensitive than you, something has gone awry.
You're confusing depictions of violence within the narrative of TV shows with Colbert using hyperbole to make a point about the absurdity of anti-gun control proponents.
Ah, so whereas Family Guy uses cartoonishly exaggerated depictions of violence to get a laugh, Colbert uses cartoonishly exaggerated descriptions of violence to get a laugh. I see the difference now.
Edit: Again, when Seth MacFarlane and Craig Ferguson are being more sensitive than you, something has gone awry.
Well, I don't want to go through a high school English level description of satire with you, so I'm not sure what else to say.
One is slapstick, cheap humor and the other is trying to reveal the absurdity of a ideology.
One channel delayed a show that had violence (Haven) but will air it in a few weeks. Any victim's parents (since you brought them up as ones who would be looking to escape through TV shortly after Newtown shootings) who would be offended by that episode would likely still be offended in a few weeks.
The other things that were pulled don't mention being pulled/delayed because of potentially offensive content. There's a Barbara Walters interview with Obama that wasn't aired and a few other things were replaced with coverage of the tragedy. Fox pulled it's Sunday lineup but they don't say it was because of any offensive content like the Haven thing.
What Ferguson did was classy but not mandatory/necessary.
So Haven got delayed.....let's see what else is on tonight.
FX is airing The Hurt Locker...some gunplay and violence in that. Probably going to offend some.
Fuse network is playing Airheads....a movie about guys who hold a radio station hostage with guns (fake guns....but still could offend some people).
G4 is playing Dirty Harry....killing with guns.
Spike TV is airing Kick Ass which features violence to young people and tons of over the top shooting/killing/violence.
The point is....there's plenty of things that could offend someone. Should we really censor all shows/movies/networks following a tragedy? I understand the Haven delay and am happy they did it but I don't think we can honestly remove all things that would offend someone. The Colbert Report thing may be offensive to some but not offensive to others.
Edit: Again, when Seth MacFarlane and Craig Ferguson are being more sensitive than you, something has gone awry.
This stuff is a little insulting. Just because some of us don't agree with you doesn't make us insensitive to this topic. The people/networks you mention as being more sensitive than us aren't solely doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. They have business interests and money to protect.
We don't agree with you but that doesn't make us insensitive to the tragedy. Feels like you're making things a bit personal like telling Flanzo he'd feel differently if it were his kid in the tragedy and then telling us that networks/talk show hosts are more sensitive than us because two or three shows were edited and we felt the Colbert rerun wasn't offensive.....that's just a little much, dude.