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That's a slight possibility. We liked it when we went, but we didn't LOVE it. Everything seemed a bit spread out.
Definitely more spread out but because of that there's a lot more green spaces/outdoor stuff which I like. I mostly say Denver because people say it's similar to Seattle, but definitely much sunnier and not as far from Florida.
lot of beautiful nature shit just outside of Denver as well.
Definitely more spread out but because of that there's a lot more green spaces/outdoor stuff which I like. I mostly say Denver because people say it's similar to Seattle, but definitely much sunnier and not as far from Florida.
lot of beautiful nature shit just outside of Denver as well.
Very true. The Rocky Mountain National Park being a two-hour drive away is very nice.
So my fiancée and I ready to move out of Florida. We've narrowed our options down to a few places, but aren't completely sold on any of them.
New York: a ton of our friends live here, and there's a lot of opportunity. But, rent is high and I'm afraid our dogs would suffer. Also not in love with lack of green spaces.
Chicago: fiancée's two sisters live here, so that's a plus. Similar complaints to NY in regard to lack of space and green spaces, not to mention the terrible cold throughout half the year.
Seattle: probably my favorite city on the list, but super far from our family in Florida, expensive real estate and apparently very rainy/grey many months of the year
[/span][/ul][/quote]You want a major metropolis I'm assuming?
I think Omaha and Indianapolis are great (but the cold)
So my fiancée and I ready to move out of Florida. We've narrowed our options down to a few places, but aren't completely sold on any of them.
New York: a ton of our friends live here, and there's a lot of opportunity. But, rent is high and I'm afraid our dogs would suffer. Also not in love with lack of green spaces.
Chicago: fiancée's two sisters live here, so that's a plus. Similar complaints to NY in regard to lack of space and green spaces, not to mention the terrible cold throughout half the year.
Seattle: probably my favorite city on the list, but super far from our family in Florida, expensive real estate and apparently very rainy/grey many months of the year
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Have you visited the places you're interested in or are you going by what you've heard? Each city has a feel, and it can make all the difference. I'll offer my 2c though:
NYC: You prob know enough about NYC to not need others' input tbh so I'll skip this.
Chicago: My favorite city in the country - though I've only been there in the summer, and that's probably the biggest caveat. I'd move there if I felt myself equipped to deal with the winters, but I hate the cold with a furious passion and hate wearing layers, so I wouldn't hang. I wouldn't be surprised if I end up out there for a little bit at some point though. Chicago has a vibrant local music scene and is the main Midwest stop for tours, so it has that going for it as well. Chicago is also the cleanest city I've been to, though I've only really been downtown.
Seattle: Expensive with no signs of slowing down, from what I've gathered, but there are a decent amount of tech jobs so if that's your field it may help. I have seasonal depression as it is so I couldn't deal with the rain and cloudiness, but YMMV. Similar to Chicago winters, it's probably the sort of thing you just adapt to.
Portland: Also very expensive. My best friend recently moved from there to Vancouver, WA due to the rising prices. It's a pretty sprawling city in some ways; there are a lot of places within "city" limits that are very surburban, all one-story, etc. It's an incredibly left-leaning city, and in my experience the people there like to make sure you know it. I remember going down one strip of stores and each one had a decal in the window saying that LGBT/POC/etc folks were welcome - which is absolutely great! - but it kinda loses its impact when it's in every shop. If they weren't cool with the gays they probably wouldn't have opened a business in Portland suburbia. It wouldn't bother me personally, but I noticed it and it's worth pointing out.
Anywho that's all this caffeinated dude who's never lived outside of a 25-mile radius has to say regarding your life choices. Good luck!
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Washington/Oregon also have pretty big right wing problems iirc, on an institutional level its probably better than TX/FL, but like Austin is probably not much different than those cities.
My main gripe with Seattle was public parking was a nightmare and it had way more hills than I expected which was kind of tough in the snow.
this completely random survey i just pulled up has Denver as the 36th most diverse (large cities, by a bunch of metrics), Seattle as 180, Portland as 267 (out of 501).
Definitely, but not more than Seattle/Portland/Austin.
42, but from my own anecdotal experience id say Austin is a shade more diverse than Denver, but they might not be including some of the bigger suburbs/adjacent cities in this idk.
Post by justinmn9319 on Jan 17, 2020 12:35:17 GMT -5
Minneapolis is cold but we love it here, about to get 9"-12" of snow over the next 24 hours. work is closing early, so we have that going for us apparently
So my fiancée and I ready to move out of Florida. We've narrowed our options down to a few places, but aren't completely sold on any of them.
New York: a ton of our friends live here, and there's a lot of opportunity. But, rent is high and I'm afraid our dogs would suffer. Also not in love with lack of green spaces.
Chicago: fiancée's two sisters live here, so that's a plus. Similar complaints to NY in regard to lack of space and green spaces, not to mention the terrible cold throughout half the year.
Seattle: probably my favorite city on the list, but super far from our family in Florida, expensive real estate and apparently very rainy/grey many months of the year
[/span][/ul][/quote]You want a major metropolis I'm assuming?
I think Omaha and Indianapolis are great (but the cold)[/quote]Omaha is a definite no, Indy maaaaybe but I can't see it beating out other choices. Thank you!
So my fiancée and I ready to move out of Florida. We've narrowed our options down to a few places, but aren't completely sold on any of them.
New York: a ton of our friends live here, and there's a lot of opportunity. But, rent is high and I'm afraid our dogs would suffer. Also not in love with lack of green spaces.
Chicago: fiancée's two sisters live here, so that's a plus. Similar complaints to NY in regard to lack of space and green spaces, not to mention the terrible cold throughout half the year.
Seattle: probably my favorite city on the list, but super far from our family in Florida, expensive real estate and apparently very rainy/grey many months of the year
[/span][/ul][/quote]Have you visited the places you're interested in or are you going by what you've heard? Each city has a feel, and it can make all the difference. I'll offer my 2c though:
NYC: You prob know enough about NYC to not need others' input tbh so I'll skip this.
Chicago: My favorite city in the country - though I've only been there in the summer, and that's probably the biggest caveat. I'd move there if I felt myself equipped to deal with the winters, but I hate the cold with a furious passion and hate wearing layers, so I wouldn't hang. I wouldn't be surprised if I end up out there for a little bit at some point though. Chicago has a vibrant local music scene and is the main Midwest stop for tours, so it has that going for it as well. Chicago is also the cleanest city I've been to, though I've only really been downtown.
Seattle: Expensive with no signs of slowing down, from what I've gathered, but there are a decent amount of tech jobs so if that's your field it may help. I have seasonal depression as it is so I couldn't deal with the rain and cloudiness, but YMMV. Similar to Chicago winters, it's probably the sort of thing you just adapt to.
Portland: Also very expensive. My best friend recently moved from there to Vancouver, WA due to the rising prices. It's a pretty sprawling city in some ways; there are a lot of places within "city" limits that are very surburban, all one-story, etc. It's an incredibly left-leaning city, and in my experience the people there like to make sure you know it. I remember going down one strip of stores and each one had a decal in the window saying that LGBT/POC/etc folks were welcome - which is absolutely great! - but it kinda loses its impact when it's in every shop. If they weren't cool with the gays they probably wouldn't have opened a business in Portland suburbia. It wouldn't bother me personally, but I noticed it and it's worth pointing out.
Anywho that's all this caffeinated dude who's never lived outside of a 25-mile radius has to say regarding your life choices. Good luck![/quote] Thanks for the detailed feedback! We've visited all except Austin and Portland.
Chicago is definitely amazing during the summer, also love how clean it is (it's night and day compared to New York, which is terribly dirty).
Portland real estate seems to be cheaper than Denver.
Washington/Oregon also have pretty big right wing problems iirc, on an institutional level its probably better than TX/FL, but like Austin is probably not much different than those cities.
My main gripe with Seattle was public parking was a nightmare and it had way more hills than I expected which was kind of tough in the snow.
Good call on the right-wing issues, but we also deal with that shit in FL. Seattle is very hilly, would be a big adjustment compared to flat Florida.
Definitely, but not more than Seattle/Portland/Austin.
42, but from my own anecdotal experience id say Austin is a shade more diverse than Denver, but they might not be including some of the bigger suburbs/adjacent cities in this idk.
Keep reading about how diverse Austin is, so definitely need to visit asap.
Minneapolis is cold but we love it here, about to get 9"-12" of snow over the next 24 hours. work is closing early, so we have that going for us apparently
Minny seems good on paper, but read it's terribly cold in the winter and terribly humid in the summer. Thoughts?
42, but from my own anecdotal experience id say Austin is a shade more diverse than Denver, but they might not be including some of the bigger suburbs/adjacent cities in this idk.
Keep reading about how diverse Austin is, so definitely need to visit asap.
Minneapolis is cold but we love it here, about to get 9"-12" of snow over the next 24 hours. work is closing early, so we have that going for us apparently
Minny seems good on paper, but read it's terribly cold in the winter and terribly humid in the summer. Thoughts?
pretty spot on. it actually has been a really mild winter so fall. no multiple days of highs below zero. summer can have a lot of humidity at times too. in both seasons though you can hit some sweet spots where it's amazing
current forecasted highs of 23 27 7 11 19 34 37 which is actually really good for this time of the year. once you're outside and it's 0, 25 fells pretty good. it's all relative when it comes down to it
Also if you like being told to go fuck yourself, there's a home for you in Philadelphia.
LOL Philly was also a possibility, but seems a lil intense. Would love to visit soon.
If you do and want to meet up, let me know! It's been a year and a half since I moved here, and I wouldn't describe it as intense - just gritty, esp depending on where you set up camp. There are areas of the city you Just Don't Go To and others where I'd feel fairly safe walking alone intoxicated late at night (though that's never the greatest idea but you get what I mean). It's certainly no less intense than New York City, where I was once offered cocaine outside of Penn Station from a man who was pissing on a wall at the time. In Philly they'll at least finish pissing.
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this completely random survey i just pulled up has Denver as the 36th most diverse (large cities, by a bunch of metrics), Seattle as 180, Portland as 267 (out of 501).
Wow, I'm really surprised by that. When we visited it was startlingly lacking in PoC, but that was just one day's anecdotal experience. I'm also surprised by the Portland figure, but the aforementioned friend I was visiting with when I went is Black so his stomping grounds might be diverse than other areas.
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LOL Philly was also a possibility, but seems a lil intense. Would love to visit soon.
If you do and want to meet up, let me know! It's been a year and a half since I moved here, and I wouldn't describe it as intense - just gritty, esp depending on where you set up camp. There are areas of the city you Just Don't Go To and others where I'd feel fairly safe walking alone intoxicated late at night (though that's never the greatest idea but you get what I mean). It's certainly no less intense than New York City, where I was once offered cocaine outside of Penn Station from a man who was pissing on a wall at the time. In Philly they'll at least finish pissing.
If you do and want to meet up, let me know! It's been a year and a half since I moved here, and I wouldn't describe it as intense - just gritty, esp depending on where you set up camp. There are areas of the city you Just Don't Go To and others where I'd feel fairly safe walking alone intoxicated late at night (though that's never the greatest idea but you get what I mean). It's certainly no less intense than New York City, where I was once offered cocaine outside of Penn Station from a man who was pissing on a wall at the time. In Philly they'll at least finish pissing.
5.5/four tet, daphni b2b floating points, avalon emerson 5.12/neil young 5.19/mannequin pussy 5.21/serpentwithfeet 5.25/hozier 6.12-16/bonnaroo 6.28/goose 6.29/goose 9.17/the national + the war on drugs 9.23/sigur ros 9.27-29/making time 10.17/air
We’re moving to Las Vegas this year, so I say there. Housing is cheap, The scenery and outdoor stuff can’t be beat, food and entertainment is cheap, the weather is amazing, every band I want to see stops in Vegas and Los Angeles is a 4 hour drive or $40 round trip flight away.
We don’t gamble, so that’s a big plus for us when it comes to temptation
42, but from my own anecdotal experience id say Austin is a shade more diverse than Denver, but they might not be including some of the bigger suburbs/adjacent cities in this idk.
Keep reading about how diverse Austin is, so definitely need to visit asap.
if you want diversity, Houston all the way.
we have better food too, they just blow us out of the water with the musics, especially post Day for Night.
Post by 10goldbees on Jan 17, 2020 13:50:15 GMT -5
Just going to throw Atlanta out there too, especially if you're in in the IT/tech world. It's close to your Florida friend and an easy flight to NY and Chicago. The city is very green compared to the bigger cities on your list and close-ish to some of the most biodiverse land in this hemisphere. It's a young city, lots to do, great food, and housing is more affordable than even Seattle (for now).
I think I've given you travel advice for Shaky Knees so feel free to reach out if you have questions about moving here. Same goes for anyone else.
Cost of living is great. Housing is cheap. Food's great. Drink's great.
Spring, summer, fall are all pretty spectacular weather-wise. Winter can occasionally get dramatic but usually it's pretty fine. (It helps that people here know how to drive in the snow.)
Nevermind about Boise real estate, way more expensive than I thought. Florida and Texas really do offer the best deals.
Yeah my wife finishes her PhD in about a year or so and we've been looking at places to go. Boise was surprisingly expensive. Only places cheaper than phoenix we could find were mid size cities in the Midwest, the south, or Detroit. Phoenix is the cheapest big city (biggest cheap city?). Californians figured it out and they've been flocking here like mad.
We’re moving to Las Vegas this year, so I say there. Housing is cheap, The scenery and outdoor stuff can’t be beat, food and entertainment is cheap, the weather is amazing, every band I want to see stops in Vegas and Los Angeles is a 4 hour drive or $40 round trip flight away.
We don’t gamble, so that’s a big plus for us when it comes to temptation
Vegas came up as a cheaper option (no state income tax woo), but it's not our top favorite.
Just going to throw Atlanta out there too, especially if you're in in the IT/tech world. It's close to your Florida friend and an easy flight to NY and Chicago. The city is very green compared to the bigger cities on your list and close-ish to some of the most biodiverse land in this hemisphere. It's a young city, lots to do, great food, and housing is more affordable than even Seattle (for now).
I think I've given you travel advice for Shaky Knees so feel free to reach out if you have questions about moving here. Same goes for anyone else.
ATL is cool, but the traffic is an absolute nightmare.