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So the Isle of Wight headliners pretty much own Bonnaroo's. Paul McCartney, The Strokes and Jay-Z. Then again, we don't have to endure Pink and what's left of Blondie.
Post by Mean Mr. Mustard on Mar 2, 2010 10:47:27 GMT -5
^^ Well McCartney is pretty much Game-set-match, but we have one of their headliners and the Strokes don't do much for me. That said they win based on Sir Paul alone.
So the Isle of Wight headliners pretty much own Bonnaroo's. Paul McCartney, The Strokes and Jay-Z. Then again, we don't have to endure Pink and what's left of Blondie.
Jay-Z and McCartney are big. I'm not a fan of the strokes. The rest of the lineup looks horrible (for me) besides Vampire Weekend. I don't really know or like any of the other acts.
Even if you're not all that into them, The Strokes are much better live than KoL. MUCH better.
Orbital is pretty great. Calvin Harris, Crowded House, Devendra Banhart, Doves, Editors, Florence and the Machine, The Hold Steady, LA Roux and Squeeze are also pretty solid acts.
Not really comparing the entire lineups. Just the headliners. They have better ones. By far.
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Not really comparing the entire lineups. Just the headliners. They have better ones. By far.
Not in my opinion. Bonnaroo has 4 top acts I'd like to see. One of them is at the other festival already. So the only draw for me is Paul McCartney. I like Roo's headliners. I agree that DMB and KOL should not be before Stevie and Jay-Z but I still like the combination of those 4 acts over the Isle of Wight headliners. But again....that's just personal taste.
Itrainmonkeys you should check out doves, one of the most consistently great under-rated bands out there today.
I've heard about them a little bit. I kept mixing them up with this other small band I've gotten into "Dawes". I would mix them up because of the names.
I'm not saying I wouldn't like some of the undercard on there. Just that I don't know them enough for me to say that lineup is awesome or something. I do know that I have no interest in seeing Pink, Spandau Ballet, or Juliette Lewis. There are bands on there that i've been meaning to look into based on things i've read like Friendly Fires and Hockey.
Even if you're not all that into them, The Strokes are much better live than KoL. MUCH better.
So? I'm not a fan of the Strokes. I would rather watch a set from KOL even though you say The Strokes are much better live.
Right...and basically I'm telling you that you're incorrect for liking KoL more.
But seriously, if you've seen both bands live, you'll quickly get that the Kings approach is just a rip off of the Strokes (just like their first two albums were obvious attempts at being the southern Strokes). But The Strokes pull it off better because it fits their songs. Whereas the Kings of Leon have tempo shifts that imply emotion and peaks that they don't exude live.
Plus, when you sing along to Strokes songs, you don't feel like a pathetic junior high boy.
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So? I'm not a fan of the Strokes. I would rather watch a set from KOL even though you say The Strokes are much better live.
Right...and basically I'm telling you that you're incorrect for liking KoL more.
But seriously, if you've seen both bands live, you'll quickly get that the Kings approach is just a rip off of the Strokes (just like their first two albums were obvious attempts at being the southern Strokes). But The Strokes pull it off better because it fits their songs. Whereas the Kings of Leon have tempo shifts that imply emotion and peaks that they don't exude live.
Plus, when you sing along to Strokes songs, you don't feel like a pathetic junior high boy.
I suspect Caleb's using a vocal affectation he could easily lose if he hadn't invested so much time sounding like the offspring of Tom Petty and Eddie Vedder on the first four records.
It's not too late though. Julian lost the filter after the first two Strokes albums.
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Julian Casablancas also doesn't have the voice of a 80 year old who has smoked all his life.
So this is the band that he's from. I kept forgetting cuz I've seen him a few times doing solo stuff recently. I wasn't too big of a fan of his solo stuff but I only have a song here or there to judge. He looked kinda douchey on one of the shows I saw him on but in google images he seems normal. Extra points to him for the Ghostbusters shirt.
Seriously, who did you listen to in 2001? Overrated or not that album was REALLY hard to avoid.
I listened to mostly rap in 2001. I am from a pretty urban environment where I only was exposed to rap and hip hop for a long time. My bus rides to school had Hot 97 playing (a big rap radio station in NY a while ago) and I hung out with people who were black or pretended to be black. I didn't have much in the way of musical enlightenment until a few years later when my friend and I would sit in his room and eat corn while he introduced me to Axis: Bold as Love by Jimi Hendrix and some live Grateful Dead stuff.
I'm not ashamed to say i'm a late bloomer when it comes to music love. I used to listen to Jay-Z, Eminem, Biggie, Wu tang Clan, 50 Cent and G-Unit and all that stuff when I was younger. Around the summer of 2003 is when I was turned on to Hendrix, The Dead, and King Crimson. This led me to start listening to The Doors, The Beatles, The Byrds, Neil Young, CSNY, The Rolling Stones, Frank Zappa and more. My new love of music led me to start attending shows and small festivals and then Bonnaroo in 2005. For a while I believed there weren't many good bands or music out there currently but then Roo and other outlets (the internet, relix and other magazines, friends) turned me on to a bunch of newer bands I fell in love with like Wilco, My Morning Jacket, The White Stripes.
So in 2001 I didn't hear any Strokes. And if I did (in a commercial or movie or t.v. show) then I didn't know it was them.
Really though, that was a much better answer than I expected. Anyway, the reason The Strokes are so popular is because of nostalgia. They sound like the 60's. Early Beatles, Doors, Byrds, etc. Is This It? had a lot of really good, catchy songs on it that didn't sound like anything else at all at time. They started a huge trend and now all indie are still copying what the Strokes did. They're arguably the most important band of the last 20 years or so (some say the White Stripes) because they both completely killed all of the nu-metal that was popular at the time, like how Nirvana killed all the hair metal a decade before. The other two albums aren't nearly as good. Check out Is This It?
Room On Fire is also pretty great, I would argue even better. I couldn't stand First Impressions of Earth, but the songs on that album translate well live.
Really though, that was a much better answer than I expected. Anyway, the reason The Strokes are so popular is because of nostalgia. They sound like the 60's. Early Beatles, Doors, Byrds, etc. Is This It? had a lot of really good, catchy songs on it that didn't sound like anything else at all at time. They started a huge trend and now all indie are still copying what the Strokes did. They're arguably the most important band of the last 20 years or so (some say the White Stripes) because they both completely killed all of the nu-metal that was popular at the time, like how Nirvana killed all the hair metal a decade before. The other two albums aren't nearly as good. Check out Is This It?
Yea they were wigger's no doubt. I never understood it though. The most I did was wear Timberland boots. But I definitely got into rap because it's all I was really around. Plus Eminem was big then so it was okay for white people to like rap lol.
But yea, it took some corn and tapes of Hendrix to make me understand what I was missing. I'll check out the Strokes at some point. Nowadays I feel like there's too much great new music and it's so hard to keep up with it all.
Are the Strokes still a band and Julian is just doing solo stuff right now or did they break up for good or something like that?
Post by cornquacker on Mar 2, 2010 14:35:15 GMT -5
I'm surprised nobody corrected me on the 20 years thing. I meant to say 10.
Britt, sure Julian's vocals are very different from Paul and John's but listen to Please Please Me, With the Beatles, Meet the Beatles, etc. (I said early Beatles) There's definitely some influence there.