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Post by cornquacker on Feb 23, 2010 20:23:17 GMT -5
Whatever Damon decides to put into his show has absolutely no bearing on GV. They signed him, that's that. He's at liberty to do what he wants with his own show. Paul McCartney could have easily cost them more than all three headliners combined this year.
Whatever Damon decides to put into his show has absolutely no bearing on GV. They signed him, that's that. He's at liberty to do what he wants with his own show. Paul McCartney could have easily cost them more than all three headliners combined this year.
Frankly, this is kind of naive.
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I like a whole smurfing lot of music, even a lot of bands playing at festivals this year. I'm objectively comparing all of the lineups this year with the last few years and sorry but they do not stack up.
There's no way you can claim that 2 Phish sets, Bruce, NIN, BB's, Bryne and Wilco = DMB, KOL, Jay-Z, Stevie Wonder, Flips, Tenacious D, and Weezer. Not even close.
And with Coachella: Jay-Z, Muse and Gorillaz definitely doesn't match up to McCartney, The Cure and The Killers.
The same goes for other festivals. Face it, it's not a big year for festival lineups. This is objective, not strokes for folks.
dude.....liking music is not factual or simple "good" or "bad". it's all about opinion.
Don't compare to other years. Other years have different bands and artists touring. It's an unfair comparison. Festivals usually book acts that are touring around the time of the festival.
As far as comparing last years Roo to this year's roo:
I didn't see most of Bruce, all of NIN, or any of Byrne. If I went to Roo this year I probably wouldn't see all of DMB and wouldn't see any of Weezer. Out of the acts you listed in your comparison I actually like more of this year's bands than last year's bands. So how can you tell me my opinion is wrong?
Same thing goes for Coachella. I'm a much bigger fan of and would be more excited for Jay-z, Muse and Gorillaz instead of McCartney, The Cure, and the Killers.
It is objective because I could care less about The Cure and I don't like the Killers. McCartney is nostalgia and I'd like to see some Beatles and Wings stuff but personally I'm a bigger fan of Muse, Gorillaz, and especially Jay-Z.
Please. Stop acting like your opinion of things is fact. You don't determine if a lineup or lineups is good. You aren't the final judgment. I am fairly certain that a lot of lineups for festivals this year interest me a lot more than past years. Quit acting like the things you believe are the same for everyone.
Post by nodepression on Feb 23, 2010 21:44:02 GMT -5
I think when you spend enough time going to festivals and concerts you realize what events are special compared to others. Bonnaroo 10 is a getting a lot of flack from a bunch of veterans on this board and others it's not just cornquacker. There aren't a whole lot of people I've seen this year who really like this lineup, compare that to last year when a great majority of this site and others were praising the lineup.
I think when you spend enough time going to festivals and concerts you realize what events are special compared to others. Bonnaroo 10 is a getting a lot of flack from a bunch of veterans on this board and others it's not just cornquacker. There aren't a whole lot of people I've seen this year who really like this lineup, compare that to last year when a great majority of this site and others were praising the lineup.
Yea but factor in other message boards and the many different people who have said many of there friends are interested in the lineup and you will see that just because we here on Inforoo may not be astounded doesn't mean it's a bad lineup.
I actually had a friend call me today because of the lineup. This same friend came with me in 05 and 06 and has given me shiit about going back every year after that. He complained bout the festival and the lineup every year but this year he said it's something really interesting and different. He was amazed that Gwar and Steve Martin and many other big acts would be all together in the same weekend.
The people of inforoo are clearly upset because we were told by multiple people that Roger Waters and Neil Young would be at Roo this year. We had super high expectations and when those expectations weren't met most people felt like Roo was horrible. I agree with most that DMB and KOL getting top billing is silly but for the most part this years lineup has just as much to offer (minus some jam.....but additions are coming) as other years.
Last year we got phish and were the only festival to get it. Phish is a band that most everyone on Inforoo has been dying to get at Roo since Roo began. Of course that lineup will excite more people than a lineup that seemed like it would have Roger Waters and Neil Young but instead got DMB and KOL.
I'm afraid Phish, Roger Waters, and Neil Young have nothing to do with the negative reaction to this lineup. The whole thing is questionable at best from top to bottom. A stronger undercard than last year would have pleased 90% of the people now complaining about the top 5.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
Post by cornquacker on Feb 23, 2010 22:52:10 GMT -5
itrainmonkeys, I'm not saying my opinion is better than anyone elses. That's why I was avoiding being subjective in the first place. I said this year's lineup is "weak" compared to the last few years. It's weaker because of measurable, objective things like how much money these bands cost to book, album sales, etc. I was never talking about tastes.
I'm afraid Phish, Roger Waters, and Neil Young have nothing to do with the negative reaction to this lineup. The whole thing is questionable at best from top to bottom. A stronger undercard than last year would have pleased 90% of the people now complaining about the top 5.
As far as my personal preferences are concerned, this is a stronger undercard than last year.
As a whole, there are a lot more acts quantitatively that I want to see than there were last year...and this is just initially, as I am really getting into a few acts I had not even heard of pre-lineup (such as Local Natives, Fanfarlo, and Neon Indian). Despite the apparent consensus on the message boards that this lineup is bad or weak, itrainmonkeys is correct that it still does not make it an objective fact. To each his own.
However, I will admit that I was dying to see Bruce last year more than I am dying to see any one particular act this year.
itrainmonkeys, I'm not saying my opinion is better than anyone elses. That's why I was avoiding being subjective in the first place. I said this year's lineup is "weak" compared to the last few years. It's weaker because of measurable, objective things like how much money these bands cost to book, album sales, etc. I was never talking about tastes.
Exactly. Don't let itrainmonkeys bully you around. He apparently likes to pretend there is no measure of objectivity when it comes to music, which is just silly. Music is not completely subjective, period. Cornquaker, I appreciate you standing up for this, what is right.
Also, the lineup drops off BIG TIME after Jay-Z. Weezer as the #6 billed band on the lineup is embarrassing. That would be ok if this was 1996, but it's 2010. Every Weezer album post Maladroit has been complete garbage.
Yea but factor in other message boards and the many different people who have said many of there friends are interested in the lineup and you will see that just because we here on Inforoo may not be astounded doesn't mean it's a bad lineup.
Last year we got phish and were the only festival to get it. Phish is a band that most everyone on Inforoo has been dying to get at Roo since Roo began. Of course that lineup will excite more people than a lineup that seemed like it would have Roger Waters and Neil Young but instead got DMB and KOL.
After Phish, the next four names on the lineup were much more exciting than DMBKOL to pretty much all roo regulars, on the board or not. Also, people on other music message boards certainly aren't any more keen on this lineup than inforoo is. The coachella board for one, despises the roo lineup this year. A whole lot of them (I think it was about 30 or so) went to roo last year, not this year.
As I said before, I LOVE this lineup. I like it a lot more than last year, actually. Serious variety, a chance for AMAZING late night, and its stacked with legends.
Wow, really? 10 people? I mean, if a self-selected, jam-band-leaning message board who just got Phish TWICE last year doesn't like the lineup then then they should just cancel the damn thing, amiright?
I don't get the usage of the word deep that I've been seeing around here lately. Is that just a synonym for eclectic now? Or does it mean bands that haven't been relevant since the 90s?
Emoney serves more of a purpose than any of you, especially Nate, whose incessant, garbled ramblings are so mindless and pointless that I get depressed just seeing them.
We have legends in so many fields this year. Stevie Wonder, Jimmy Cliff, Kris Kristofferson, and Johns Prine & Fogerty. In hip hop, there's classic talent like Jay-Z & Nas and great up and coming artists like Wale, Jay Electronica, B.O.B., and Kid Cudi. The late night will be SPECTACULAR this year with FLips, Deadmau5, Bassnectar, Thievery Corporation, LCD Soundsystem, Dan Deacon, and Chromeo. You have tremendously interesting groups like Mumford & Sons, Neon Indian, amd Mayer Hawthorne. The indie is very good - Phoenix, Tokyo Police Club, Dead Weather, Temper Trap and Miike Snow. It's a DEEP lineup. There's a TON of interesting acts -- and if you can't get excited about them then you probably don't really like music all that much - or at least more than one genre. It's deep because if you take the time to study the artists, the ones who are listed at the bottom thus far (Neon Indian and B.O.B.) are two really interesting and cool ones that you OUGHT to be listening to on repeat. That's getting deeper than Peter North, son.
Fine, you're not. That doesn't change that 80% of the people on the board would give up their first born to see Jerry play just one more time.
And it doesn't change how dynamic and deep this lineup is. AND we're still getting another 30-40 acts!
How dare they want jam bands at a festival that began as a jam-based fest.
And those 30-40 acts! will be cafe acts and DJs. That doesn't change how weak the top of the lineup is.
Those 30-40 acts -- two years ago they included Chromeo, MSTRKRFT, Zappa Plays Zappa, Disco Biscuits and Cat Power. Last year they included Public Enemy, Ani Difranco, Heartless Basterds, Passion Pit, Dillinger Escape Plan, MURS, White Rabbits, Hockey, and Pretty Lights. Those are great adds and I'd love to see us get similar ones this year.
It may have started as a jam fest but it ain't one anymore. Get over that fact or go to Rothbur-- oh. Right. Hah.
Post by nodepression on Feb 24, 2010 1:56:49 GMT -5
There's some great stuff on the lineup sure, LCD, The National, Stevie, The Avetts, Jay-Z, Flips, Phoenix, The xx, Black Keys come to mind.
But speaking strictly in terms of "indie" last year we had Animal Collective, Grizzly Bear, Dirty Projectors, YYY's, St. Vincent, Bon Iver. For headliners we had people who weren't doing any other american festivals, Bruce, Phish, NIN, David Byrne.
Maybe last year was just lightning in a bottle, but this lineup just isn't as deep as last year was, and that's not a jam band, hippie, wook thing, that's just what it is. Maybe we'll get some cool adds, it's not like this lineup can't be helped by a Neil Young or a Pavement still, but for now I'm disappointed and it has nothing to do with how much music I listen to.
I'm sorry, but how am I acting like an idiot? I don't take to personal insults kindly.
I think the lineup is excellent. I think that a majority of the people who don't like the lineup are upset because there "isn't, like, enough jam, man! Where's the jam?"
I don't want you to cave, nd. I'd rather have a discussion with someone who believes in what they're saying than someone who has no spine or no faith in what they believe. I'd rather just not argue past each other when we're never going to agree. That's all.
It may have started as a jam fest but it ain't one anymore. Get over that fact or go to Rothbur-- oh. Right. Hah.
I laughed, I'll admit it. But it's true. If you want a festival that caters to the wookiees (that's how Chewbacca's race spells it, kiddos) then go to one. Bonnaroo hasn't been that festival for a few years now -- not quite sure why people think they are suddenly going to book Phish, Widespread, SCI, Trey (separately, natch), Disco Biscuits, STS9, The Dead, Assembly of Dust, moe, Furthur, and Yonder Mountain String Band. They aren't.
Maybe last year was just lightning in a bottle, but this lineup just isn't as deep as last year was, and that's not a jam band, hippie, wook thing, that's just what it is. Maybe we'll get some cool adds, it's not like this lineup can't be helped by a Neil Young or a Pavement still, but for now I'm disappointed and it has nothing to do with how much music I listen to.
Nail on the head. Last year was jast amazing.Best line up I've ever seen, to be honest. I was prepared to be a little let down a little bit.
But it's not just that way with Bonnaroo, it's every festival. I havn't seen one that blows me away this summer. Everyone is hurting. Summer tours are in Europe. Look at the ammount of festivals that are going on and how many US bands are there.
I'm sure they tried for more bands but wern't able to obtain them due to touring conflicts.
With that news of APW closing it's doors and Roth closing, I wonder how much money AEG put up for that Coachella line up. Which leads me to another though.
Which is better? A subpar festival with a few good acts or no festival at all?
The Arcadian Kicks, Are You Experienced, Biffy Clyro, Blondie, The Brilliant Things, Calvin Harris, The Coronas, Crowded House, Daisy Dares You, Devendra Banhart, Doves, Editors, Florence and The Machine, Friendly Fires, Hockey, The Hold Steady, I Blame Coco, James, Jay-Z, Juliette Lewis, La Roux, Marina & the Diamonds, Melanie Safka, Mini Viva, Mr Hudson, N-Dubz, Noah and the Whale, Ocean Colour Scene, Orbital, Paloma Faith, Pink, The Saturdays, Shakespears Sister, Spandau Ballet, Squeeze, The Strokes, Suzanne Vega, Suzi Quatro, Reef, Vampire Weekend, Woman
Download
AC/DC, Aerosmith, Bullet For My Valentine, Deftones, Megadeth, Motorhead, Rage Against the Machine, Stone Temple Pilots, Them Crooked Vultures, Volbeat, Wolfmother
Nova Rock
A Day To Remember, Airbourne, Ailce in Chains, As I Lay Dying, Beatsteaks, Bela B, Bullet For My Valentine, Deftones, Deichkind, DevilDriver, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Heaven & Hell, The Hives, Gossip, Green Day, Hot Water Music, Job For a Cowboy, The Prodigy, Rammstein, Ska-P, Slayer, The Sorrow, Sportsfreunde Stiller, The Sorrow, Stone Sour, Stone Temple Pilots, Subway to Sally, Unearth, Wolfmother
Rock Ness
2manydjs, Aeroplane, Annie Mac, The Bloody Beetroots, Booka Shade, Club 75 (feat. Xavier de Rosnay, DJ Mehdi, & Busy P), The Cuban Brothers, Dan Le Sac Vs Scroobius Pip, Doves, Dub Pistols, Fatboy Slim, Friendly Fires, Hadouken!, Ian Brown, The Japanese Popstars, Leftfield, Plan B, Rob da Bank, Soulwax, The Strokes, Vampire Weeekend, Vitalic[
Thats 4 Euro fests that are happening the same weekend as Roo. There is alot of overlap but alot of different bands as well. And I'm sure more to come.