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I have more faith in people to come together and demand change in a peaceful manner than I do in the system to get it right on their own. I think that is why I get a higher level of cognitive dissonance to the protests than the police brutality.
Can you explain or reword your second sentence? It's reading to me as "police brutality is easier for me to accept because I expect it" but I'm not sure if that's what you mean.
It's not about accepting it. Police brutality is wrong. But violence as a reaction to violence is wrong too. Maybe its my nature as not a particularly emotional person that makes it too easy to look at the situation without emotion and ask "how does this help?".
Maybe I am naive. I think calling violence a natural progression is an excuse. If you hold you self to the lowest denominator of those you oppose there is no where to go but down. I think this is particularly important with matters of civil rights in this country where so many of the great leaders preached and the great victories were accomplished through nonviolence. Yes, often one sided nonviolence.
There would be no discussion if there hadn't been riots. Thousands marched peacefully prior to the riots beginning and there was no coverage of that. When this is your only way to be heard, you're going to do it. Do some people take advantage of the situation to act like a shit head? Probably. Is that everyone's motive? Definitely not. People are angry and tempers are rising and you can only watch violence going on in your community for so long before you pop. People have rioted for far less and much more trivial things than this. I find it sad that this is the only way this stuff gets coverage. That things have to be sensationalized and then exaggerated and/or falsely reported for ratings, then they'll report on it... This is coming from someone who had no idea what was going on until about 11:30pm EST last night. I hadn't heard of the situation at all prior to then. I know what happened now because of the riots. It may not be the best way to get heard, but it's effective and I understand it.
I can see property damage as a worthwhile tactic to undertake. However, I think there has to be some standards for property damage in order to make it a worthwhile tactic to use. For example, a lot of people in Baltimore are angry at the police because they have a long history of oppressing people of color and are notorious for a high rate of police killing black people. If people took to the streets and smashed up some cop cars before setting them on fire - I understand. It's directly striking back at those who you have grievance with. But breaking into a CVS and a liquor store - I fail to see the point, as CVS and the liquor store didn't commit any outrageous sins against the community. Then again, that burned down CVS certainly got a lot of attention (though much of it negative) thrown towards the situation in general.
I also want to point out it's a huge double standard between whites and people of color in terms of rioting. Take for example Baltimore, Oakland, or the extreme situation in Ferguson and compare that to Columbus going nuts after the Suckeyes won the championship, or the Keene Pumpkin Festival last year, or when Vancouver lost Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals in 2011. After a couple days, nobody seems to give a shit about what happened when whites rioted. It's just a bunch of drunks, and boys will be boys. When people of color lash out, all of a sudden people want to throw the book at everyone the least bit involved.
The situation is indeed terrible. And while there are many good ideas for resolution in this situation, there are just as many actions perpetuating poor decision making rooted in frustration and anger. I feel everybody, and I hurt for them. Whatever god or universe you may base your belief system on, please be good to one another.
Can you explain or reword your second sentence? It's reading to me as "police brutality is easier for me to accept because I expect it" but I'm not sure if that's what you mean.
It's not about accepting it. Police brutality is wrong. But violence as a reaction to violence is wrong too. Maybe its my nature as not a particularly emotional person that makes it too easy to look at the situation without emotion and ask "how does this help?".
Nobody is saying violence is acceptable. But if it isn't understandable, you're simply not paying attention.
It's not about accepting it. Police brutality is wrong. But violence as a reaction to violence is wrong too. Maybe its my nature as not a particularly emotional person that makes it too easy to look at the situation without emotion and ask "how does this help?".
Nobody is saying violence is acceptable. But if it isn't understandable, you're simply not paying attention.
Exactly. It'd be great if all the protestors could express themselves using peaceful means. I am sure most of the protestors would prefer it that way, but it's hard to keep it on that level when you see person after person being abused or killed in police custody.
One of my best friends called me in tears today after finding out her boyfriend has been cheating on her. I decided to send her a care package with random books and American junk food. Cost of items purchased $40, cost of shipping 4LBs to Canada by Friday $50. Damn you FedEx.
Post by modestrodent on Apr 28, 2015 20:07:01 GMT -5
Does anyone have that person they just cannot stand for NO reason? You want to like them, and you see no reason not to. You feel bad for being intolerant but you find yourself gritting your teeth every time you see them. I don't know, maybe it's just me.
Post by Dave Maynar on Apr 28, 2015 20:19:15 GMT -5
First injury of softball season was earned tonight trying to run out a fly ball. You use your quad a lot it turns out, and if you strain it, it hurts every time you use it.
Does anyone have that person they just cannot stand for NO reason? You want to like them, and you see no reason not to. You feel bad for being intolerant but you find yourself gritting your teeth every time you see them. I don't know, maybe it's just me.
It's a proven fact that I hate everyone the first time I meet them.
Does anyone have that person they just cannot stand for NO reason? You want to like them, and you see no reason not to. You feel bad for being intolerant but you find yourself gritting your teeth every time you see them. I don't know, maybe it's just me.
It's a proven fact that I hate everyone the first time I meet them.
I hope to remember this, to know what to expect...
Does anyone have that person they just cannot stand for NO reason? You want to like them, and you see no reason not to. You feel bad for being intolerant but you find yourself gritting your teeth every time you see them. I don't know, maybe it's just me.
First injury of softball season was earned tonight trying to run out a fly ball. You use your quad a lot it turns out, and if you strain it, it hurts every time you use it.
But seriously dude, take care of yourself. Gotta be healthy to tailgate up on Rocky Top. I might make it down for a game this year.
Post by Od Lid Johnny on Apr 28, 2015 21:54:42 GMT -5
So my wife has been distant for the last couple of weeks. Today I find a message between her and a male coworker. He sent her a music video bad company-feel like making love. She replied with a big smiley face. She also has been chatting him up while I am at work. And also while I am trying to talk to her. Is she cheating?
So my wife has been distant for the last couple of weeks. Today I find a message between her and a male coworker. He sent her a music video bad company-feel like making love. She replied with a big smiley face. She also has been chatting him up while I am at work. And also while I am trying to talk to her. Is she cheating?
Can't say for sure, but it's not looking good. Time you guys have a long talk.
Post by potentpotables on Apr 28, 2015 22:30:00 GMT -5
I agree with Druid. It always amazes me when people are in relationships, and one person asks the other not to do something, but the behavior continues, and is even brushed off! If you tell her it bothers you, and she either ignores it or tells you it shouldn't bother you...
Post by thepeppers on Apr 29, 2015 16:56:10 GMT -5
Program Coordinator just gave me a call. Thought he was wanting to talk about our paper that were trying to get published, the final exam next week, upcoming summer, etc...
Get told I am proctoring two exams in the morning.
One of my best friends called me in tears today after finding out her boyfriend has been cheating on her. I decided to send her a care package with random books and American junk food. Cost of items purchased $40, cost of shipping 4LBs to Canada by Friday $50. Damn you FedEx.
Post by davidbyrnesbutler on Apr 29, 2015 20:23:34 GMT -5
Just got told by my landlord she is moving to Cleveland when my lease is up in August. Pretty fucking pissed considering it takes a long time to find housing on my campus. Renting is getting old real fast.
Just got told by my landlord she is moving to Cleveland when my lease is up in August. Pretty fucking pissed considering it takes a long time to find housing on my campus. Renting is getting old real fast.
Moving sucks, but moving on someone else's timeline sucks wayyyyy worse. Sorry to hear that. At least she gave you a good bit of notice.
Does anyone have that person they just cannot stand for NO reason? You want to like them, and you see no reason not to. You feel bad for being intolerant but you find yourself gritting your teeth every time you see them. I don't know, maybe it's just me.
It's a proven fact that I hate everyone the first time I meet them.
Well, after getting notified about two months ago that the organization I dreamed about getting an opportunity for was accepting applicants and applying for it...heard back a week later they wanted to conduct a phone-interview with me...then hearing back a week after that they wanted to do a face-to-face interview...then having the interview about two weeks later (and yes, I scheduled as early as possible)...I finally heard back today (15 days since the interview, which they told me would happen) as I got turned down.
A few thoughts. - I honestly haven't been rejected for anything note-worthy since high-school (that's been awhile for this guy). I forgot the feeling, it hurts. I think a lot has to do with the long process. Roughly two months ago I was told to send my resume to such-and-such if I was interested. Two months of "playing the game" as they say. They also called me, and when I saw it was them calling...I thought I had the position. Didn't imagine they would call just to say no, but they did. I appreciate the gesture, but you talk about an awkward/brief conversation.
- It is going to be difficult to find an internship this late in the game. My only two options is Roanoke, Richmond, and Winston-Salem. I have considered looking into Charlotte, but that's a 70-80 min commute from my aunt's house.
- Must say, I did learn one thing between all of this. Don't get excited about anything until it's finalized. Got over-confident when I was told they wanted me to come down for a face-to-face interview.
Well, after getting notified about two months ago that the organization I dreamed about getting an opportunity for was accepting applicants and applying for it...heard back a week later they wanted to conduct a phone-interview with me...then hearing back a week after that they wanted to do a face-to-face interview...then having the interview about two weeks later (and yes, I scheduled as early as possible)...I finally heard back today (15 days since the interview, which they told me would happen) as I got turned down.
A few thoughts. - I honestly haven't been rejected for anything note-worthy since high-school (that's been awhile for this guy). I forgot the feeling, it hurts. I think a lot has to do with the long process. Roughly two months ago I was told to send my resume to such-and-such if I was interested. Two months of "playing the game" as they say. They also called me, and when I saw it was them calling...I thought I had the position. Didn't imagine they would call just to say no, but they did. I appreciate the gesture, but you talk about an awkward/brief conversation.
- It is going to be difficult to find an internship this late in the game. My only two options is Roanoke, Richmond, and Winston-Salem. I have considered looking into Charlotte, but that's a 70-80 min commute from my aunt's house.
- Must say, I did learn one thing between all of this. Don't get excited about anything until it's finalized. Got over-confident when I was told they wanted me to come down for a face-to-face interview.
- I'm getting fucked up tonight.
Awe. I'm sorry, Sam. I know you really wanted that. But at least you went for it. You'll find something else. And seriously, everything happens for a reason. Something else will come your way.