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Top 10: 1. Fiona Apple 2. Run The Jewels 3. Phoebe Bridgers 4. Perfume Genius 5. Dua Lipa 6. Waxahatchee 7. Deftones 8. Lady Gaga 9. Freddie Gibbs & The Alchemist 10. Pearl Jam
Top 10: 1. Fiona Apple 2. Run The Jewels 3. Phoebe Bridgers 4. Perfume Genius 5. Dua Lipa 6. Waxahatchee 7. Deftones 8. Lady Gaga 9. Freddie Gibbs & The Alchemist 10. Pearl Jam
As a big PJ fan, the album is pretty good but not nearly that good.
Top 10: 1. Fiona Apple 2. Run The Jewels 3. Phoebe Bridgers 4. Perfume Genius 5. Dua Lipa 6. Waxahatchee 7. Deftones 8. Lady Gaga 9. Freddie Gibbs & The Alchemist 10. Pearl Jam
As a big PJ fan, the album is pretty good but not nearly that good.
Top 10: 1. Fiona Apple 2. Run The Jewels 3. Phoebe Bridgers 4. Perfume Genius 5. Dua Lipa 6. Waxahatchee 7. Deftones 8. Lady Gaga 9. Freddie Gibbs & The Alchemist 10. Pearl Jam
As a big PJ fan, the album is pretty good but not nearly that good.
It's like they both tried to be The Quietus and Rolling Stone or something. Very niche stuff but also very (bland) mainstream stuff in there.
tbh I think it’s a consequence of the fact that Stereogum still petty heavily segregates its reviews into different genre columns, so there end up being a lot of pop represented and also a lot of, like, random hardcore bands.
Sault Black Is is incredible, just wow on first listen.
Rise isn't close imo
That's funny because I'm the exact opposite. Was thoroughly unimpressed with Black Is but thought Rise was really good.
I definitely missed the wave of SAULT hype just kept putting it off, idk what I expected or I assumed it was but I'm definitely in on hoping they do shows, haven't checked out the '19 ones yet 5hough
As a big PJ fan, the album is pretty good but not nearly that good.
Is the Deftones album that good, then?
I think it's one of those things where fans are happy the band they liked growing up is still consistently putting out good music 20 years later. Kind of like the Radiohead of metal I guess? It'll be in my top 20, maybe top 10, but I've always loved Deftones.
I think it's one of those things where fans are happy the band they liked growing up is still consistently putting out good music 20 years later. Kind of like the Radiohead of metal I guess? It'll be in my top 20, maybe top 10, but I've always loved Deftones.
I think it's one of those things where fans are happy the band they liked growing up is still consistently putting out good music 20 years later. Kind of like the Radiohead of metal I guess? It'll be in my top 20, maybe top 10, but I've always loved Deftones.
wasn't super into Gore, Ohm was much better imo
Gore was pretty much all Chino and no Steph, which makes it just come off as another one of Chino's side projects. There are definitely some great tracks on, but I agree that it felt like it's lacking overall. Ohms is way heavier due to Steph having way more creative control than before. Pitchfork's Ohms review kind of nailed it:
the relationship between frontman Chino Moreno and guitarist Stephen Carpenter carries mythological importance: two opposing gravitational pulls that keep the band’s beautiful and bludgeoning music hovering precariously in between. Carpenter is the proudly unreconstructed metalhead, delivering slabs of distorted low end on 7- and 8-string guitars and publicly airing grievances about songs that aren’t heavy enough. Moreno is the sonic experimenter and starry romantic, with a voice that sounds misty and ethereal even when it breaks into a scream—the man whose band gave a generation of angry young rock radio listeners their first exposure to the Cocteau Twins. Moreno and Carpenter’s personal relationship is surely more nuanced than that, and Moreno is clearly a metal fan, too. But the push-pull between musical elements is real, and the reason why Deftones albums continue to feel exciting and alive while nearly every other band once labeled nu-metal now looks like self-parodic kitsch.
Side note: learning Steph is a flat-earther early last month was incredibly disheartening.
Gore was pretty much all Chino and no Steph, which makes it just come off as another one of Chino's side projects. There are definitely some great tracks on, but I agree that it felt like it's lacking overall. Ohms is way heavier due to Steph having way more creative control than before. Pitchfork's Ohms review kind of nailed it:
the relationship between frontman Chino Moreno and guitarist Stephen Carpenter carries mythological importance: two opposing gravitational pulls that keep the band’s beautiful and bludgeoning music hovering precariously in between. Carpenter is the proudly unreconstructed metalhead, delivering slabs of distorted low end on 7- and 8-string guitars and publicly airing grievances about songs that aren’t heavy enough. Moreno is the sonic experimenter and starry romantic, with a voice that sounds misty and ethereal even when it breaks into a scream—the man whose band gave a generation of angry young rock radio listeners their first exposure to the Cocteau Twins. Moreno and Carpenter’s personal relationship is surely more nuanced than that, and Moreno is clearly a metal fan, too. But the push-pull between musical elements is real, and the reason why Deftones albums continue to feel exciting and alive while nearly every other band once labeled nu-metal now looks like self-parodic kitsch.
Side note: learning Steph is a flat-earther early last month was incredibly disheartening.
yeah that's a good assement
I feel like going forward it'll probably be sans Stephen again
I think it's one of those things where fans are happy the band they liked growing up is still consistently putting out good music 20 years later. Kind of like the Radiohead of metal I guess? It'll be in my top 20, maybe top 10, but I've always loved Deftones.
This sums up. Deftones put out an album every 3 or 4 years I really enjoy it for a little while and then kinda forget about it. Till the next one comes out and I remember, damn I love Deftones. I'm always impressed that the new stuff is always exactly like Deftones but has a little bit of new with it and it's always good.
As someone who has loved Fiona a long time (Tidal was the first CD I ever bought), it’s been a gratifying joy to watch her top most lists. I know she tends to be critically well-received, but not quite to this extent. Unfortunately, I’m guessing it’ll be another eight years before she releases another album (if ever), but man did this one come at the right time during that first round of lockdowns.
As someone who has loved Fiona a long time (Tidal was the first CD I ever bought), it’s been a gratifying joy to watch her top most lists. I know she tends to be critically well-received, but not quite to this extent. Unfortunately, I’m guessing it’ll be another eight years before she releases another album (if ever), but man did this one come at the right time during that first round of lockdowns.
Idler Wheel got a lot of love. Even as a huge fan of Fiona, I felt like it was too much. With this one it's deserved. When The Pawn 4 life though!