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Post by bansheebeat on Mar 4, 2015 20:49:19 GMT -5
Thought the newest episode was great. Nice comedic break for the first half. Then we got a lot in the second half - (i.e. acknowledgement of Chuck's issues). And the last extended scene of Mike was great. Looks like next week we're gonna get a lot of answers about Mike.
The show has not disappointed so far. It could have been made very poorly but really seems like they are actually trying to make something. Rather than just making money off Breaking Bad's fame.
And that scene at the end really showed his depth of character as well as showcased some great acting. So many layers to Mike got added during that last scene.
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Holy crap that was a great episode! Sometimes you get a back story and it ruins a character but this made Mike even better.
I was listening to an interview on a random NPR show and Banks (aka Mike) was saying that the show is going to fill in his back story. So far so f*kcing awesome!
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This is the first time I've noticed this thread. I had no idea what to expect when the concept of this show was announced, but the execution has just blown away all of my expectations. Bob is an excellent actor.
The Mike stuff is still my favorite part. But that last scene with Jimmy/Saul and Chuck was powerful. It was a confrontation I saw coming based on the previous weeks events; but was naively hoping for Jimmy's sake was going to play out differently. Reminded me alot of the Walt/Hank "tread lightly" confrontation; it wasn't as good as that. But it had the same vibe of an unavoidable collision. Can't wait for the finale next week.
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I don't know if the name change will happen. But I think Jimmy became Saul during that confrontation with Chuck. His whole reason for striving to be better, do the right thing, and hold to a higher sense of morality; was to make Chuck proud. To try and be seen by this guy that he puts on a pedestal; as an equal. That's all out the window. He's Saul now.
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I don't know if the name change will happen. But I think Jimmy became Saul during that confrontation with Chuck. His whole reason for striving to be better, do the right thing, and hold to a higher sense of morality; was to make Chuck proud. To try and be seen by this guy that he puts on a pedestal; as an equal. That's all out the window. He's Saul now.
This. Whether or not the name change happens in the finale, that final conversation between Chuck and Jimmy was the beginning of Saul. Really pumped for the finale. I think they will explain more about the scene a few episodes ago where Chuck came to bail Jimmy/Saul out of jail.
Also, if any of you are GTA 5 fans, the guy in the camo pants that Mike disarmed and put on his ass was totally Trevor. He looked just like him, and I could recognize that voice anywhere.
I don't know if the name change will happen. But I think Jimmy became Saul during that confrontation with Chuck. His whole reason for striving to be better, do the right thing, and hold to a higher sense of morality; was to make Chuck proud. To try and be seen by this guy that he puts on a pedestal; as an equal. That's all out the window. He's Saul now.
This. Whether or not the name change happens in the finale, that final conversation between Chuck and Jimmy was the beginning of Saul. Really pumped for the finale. I think they will explain more about the scene a few episodes ago where Chuck came to bail Jimmy/Saul out of jail.
Also, if any of you are GTA 5 fans, the guy in the camo pants that Mike disarmed and put on his ass was totally Trevor. He looked just like him, and I could recognize that voice anywhere.
I'm glad I wasn't the only GTA 5 fan to recognize Trevor. I was hoping he might become a recurring character, but I'd say it's clear he won't be seen again.
This is the best show of the year. I didnt expect it to be so good and it has me glued from beginning to the end of each episode. Sucks there is only one episode left
This is the best show of the year. I didnt expect it to be so good and it has me glued from beginning to the end of each episode. Sucks there is only one episode left
A bit too early to say best show of the year; we still have Game of Thrones, final season of Mad Men, and seasons 2 of both True Detective and Fargo coming out this year. It is the best show of the year so far though!
I was not a fan of the season finale. They really didn't drive the story forward, they just drilled in the point that the conversation with Chuck last week has changed Jimmy's sense of morality. Honestly, if this weeks episode had opened with him driving straight to Mike and talking about the money and why they didn't take it; it would've made the same amount of sense. Although I did like that they made it clear that Jimmy has explicitly chosen a life in the morally grey area and it wasn't that he just had no other options. That makes the character a bit more interesting and contrasts with Walter White, who also chose a life of depravity. But mostly, I felt like the finale was just filler. Pretty disappointing.
Still very excited for next year and can't wait to see where the show goes (bring on the first meeting of Mike and Gus!).
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I was not a fan of the season finale. They really didn't drive the story forward, they just drilled in the point that the conversation with Chuck last week has changed Jimmy's sense of morality. Honestly, if this weeks episode had opened with him driving straight to Mike and talking about the money and why they didn't take it; it would've made the same amount of sense. Although I did like that they made it clear that Jimmy has explicitly chosen a life in the morally grey area and it wasn't that he just had no other options. That makes the character a bit more interesting and contrasts with Walter White, who also chose a life of depravity. But mostly, I felt like the finale was just filler. Pretty disappointing.
Still very excited for next year and can't wait to see where the show goes (bring on the first meeting of Mike and Gus!).
I still enjoyed it, but I agree. This article best describes how I feel
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Post by bansheebeat on Apr 7, 2015 19:55:47 GMT -5
Absolutely loved the finale. The bingo scene was probably my second favorite scene of the whole show (next to Mike's moment). Absolutely incredible.
Plus I think it's likely that they wrote this ending so they could have a decent ending if the show didn't get renewed. Luckily it did, so next season will be Jimmy becoming Saul.
I liked the finale enough but I'm with launchpad. Lots of filler. Not gonna lie that bit with the coin was fun to watch but I didn't really GET Marco's character and him dying at the end had no impact on me because...well we only met him for real 20 minutes ago. Plus him being killed off felt a TAD like a cheap tactic to make the finale feel more dramatic and climactic than it was. Despite my bellyaching, can't wait for round 2. Screw Gus! I want to see what happens with Nacho (and Tuco for that matter). Where did he go?!
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Just curious to those who said it was anti-climatic - what did you expect exactly?
Saul got to the courthouse, looked to the east towards a bright future as a "real" lawyer (throwback to the coin scene), he then said screw that and drove off into the west, dedicated to his future as a 'criminal' lawyer. I mean that's pretty huge. We learned that he actually had a chance to be a very successful lawyer. The only thing more dramatic I can think of is someone getting shot or something major with Kim. We always knew Jimmy would become Saul, but finding out the career he passed up gives a whole new level of depth to his character.
Also after my second watch I'm still stunned by how damn good that bingo scene was. How it goes from some silly story about him taking a dump in someone's car to getting pegged as a sex-offender. The change in his voice and demeanor when he brings up the kids is just crazy good. Odenkirk completely killed that scene.
A) Heck yeah that monolouge was boss! B) Im not saying the episode was not climactic at all. Rather, most of the episode didn't say anything fresh. And that is why it felt anticlimactic to me. No stakes were raised. Yes there's the fact that Jimmy says "Okay, screw being honest. Time to get sketchy" but that's essentially what I took from the subtext last week anyway. The ending to the other episode had me more pumped and gave me Breaking Bad feels similar to how I felt at the end of (as mentioned) "Blood Money". My honest opinion is that, for full impact, last week should have gone exactly the way it did and THEN had that scene with Mike from this episode at the end. All that jazz with Chicago was fun to watch but skippable.
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Just curious to those who said it was anti-climatic - what did you expect exactly?
Saul got to the courthouse, looked to the east towards a bright future as a "real" lawyer (throwback to the coin scene), he then said screw that and drove off into the west, dedicated to his future as a 'criminal' lawyer. I mean that's pretty huge. We learned that he actually had a chance to be a very successful lawyer. The only thing more dramatic I can think of is someone getting shot or something major with Kim. We always knew Jimmy would become Saul, but finding out the career he passed up gives a whole new level of depth to his character.
Also after my second watch I'm still stunned by how damn good that bingo scene was. How it goes from some silly story about him taking a dump in someone's car to getting pegged as a sex-offender. The change in his voice and demeanor when he brings up the kids is just crazy good. Odenkirk completely killed that scene.
My question is, what made him turn around? Throughout the episode he seemed hesitant to go along with Marco's plans. Jimmy was ready to head home even before Marco's last con. He was excited to get back to Albuquerque, he loved working with his clients and even said he was good at it. But, the week of pulling cons in Chicago and the natural demise of an old friend, whom he had basically told many years ago to "get off the bar stool and do something with your life", suddenly changes his mind? I just don't get it. It seemed a weak catalyst to swing him fully back to "Slippin' Jimmy."
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Just curious to those who said it was anti-climatic - what did you expect exactly?
Saul got to the courthouse, looked to the east towards a bright future as a "real" lawyer (throwback to the coin scene), he then said screw that and drove off into the west, dedicated to his future as a 'criminal' lawyer. I mean that's pretty huge. We learned that he actually had a chance to be a very successful lawyer. The only thing more dramatic I can think of is someone getting shot or something major with Kim. We always knew Jimmy would become Saul, but finding out the career he passed up gives a whole new level of depth to his character.
Also after my second watch I'm still stunned by how damn good that bingo scene was. How it goes from some silly story about him taking a dump in someone's car to getting pegged as a sex-offender. The change in his voice and demeanor when he brings up the kids is just crazy good. Odenkirk completely killed that scene.
My question is, what made him turn around? Throughout the episode he seemed hesitant to go along with Marco's plans. Jimmy was ready to head home even before Marco's last con. He was excited to get back to Albuquerque, he loved working with his clients and even said he was good at it. But, the week of pulling cons in Chicago and the natural demise of an old friend, whom he had basically told many years ago to "get off the bar stool and do something with your life", suddenly changes his mind? I just don't get it. It seemed a weak catalyst to swing him fully back to "Slippin' Jimmy."
I agree. It would be one thing if he wasn't really passionate about working on the elder law cases or if they otherwise showed that that didn't fulfill him, but he seemed to really enjoy doing it and went to great lengths for his clients (or himself, really, depending on how you look at it). Either way, he seemed set up to enjoy a pretty decent career as a legitimate lawyer - and this is what I actually wanted for him, even though I knew obviously that wasn't going to happen.
I think the feeling of anticlimacticism (we should make that a word) is due to Vince Gilligan sometimes tying things up a bit too nicely. For example, in the finale of Breaking Bad
all the loose ends get tied up perfectly, there's no big twist, nothing left hanging. Everything goes pretty much as you expect it to. The show ends without much tension. It's the same with the season finale of BCS. It's like "okay, I know what's happening here".
This episode just kinda seemed like a necessary bridge between this and the next season, but as a standalone episode it didn't do a whole lot for me.
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Just curious to those who said it was anti-climatic - what did you expect exactly?
Saul got to the courthouse, looked to the east towards a bright future as a "real" lawyer (throwback to the coin scene), he then said screw that and drove off into the west, dedicated to his future as a 'criminal' lawyer. I mean that's pretty huge. We learned that he actually had a chance to be a very successful lawyer. The only thing more dramatic I can think of is someone getting shot or something major with Kim. We always knew Jimmy would become Saul, but finding out the career he passed up gives a whole new level of depth to his character.
Also after my second watch I'm still stunned by how damn good that bingo scene was. How it goes from some silly story about him taking a dump in someone's car to getting pegged as a sex-offender. The change in his voice and demeanor when he brings up the kids is just crazy good. Odenkirk completely killed that scene.
My question is, what made him turn around? Throughout the episode he seemed hesitant to go along with Marco's plans. Jimmy was ready to head home even before Marco's last con. He was excited to get back to Albuquerque, he loved working with his clients and even said he was good at it. But, the week of pulling cons in Chicago and the natural demise of an old friend, whom he had basically told many years ago to "get off the bar stool and do something with your life", suddenly changes his mind? I just don't get it. It seemed a weak catalyst to swing him fully back to "Slippin' Jimmy."
Saul (Slippin' Jimmy) was always there. 'James' was fighting to suppress this side of him because of his brother. Once he fell back in with Marco he was having a blast, yes he felt an obligation to go help his clients, but deep down we all knew he never enjoyed elder law. That was clear from day 1, sure he played the part well but it was made clear that he was pretty miserable doing it.
When he was at the courthouse about to go in he felt Marco's ring and remembered who he really was. He's always been Slippin' Jimmy, he was simply fighting to stay good for his brother's sake. Once he realized Chuck is a piece of shit then he realized he really has absolutely no reason to fight it. Remember when he had all that money? - on his way out in the final scene he said "I had the world on my desk, why didn't we keep it?", Mike said "For me it was a job. Why didn't you keep it?" Saul- "I know why and it's never going to stop me again." - he was referring to Chuck. Throughout the whole season Saul was there, but he did the right thing solely for Chuck.
I thought the finale was brilliant. We now know WHY James became Saul, which was the point of this season. We didn't need a big dramatic cliffhanger. The arc was complete and I think throwing in some big shocking scene would've been a bit cheap. I can't wait to watch the Jimmy -> Saul transformation actually happen next season.