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I've got a pretty good guess. I had this player's phone number for Bonnaroo last year but was disappointed to find it wasn't in my contacts when I got to the farm this year. Area code suggests northern or west central Georgia. The text I got from Garageland 3 minutes later suggests it's a chat room regular.
kdogg >>> SFA
Hahaha. To be clear, it had nothing to do with the game at all. I sent that pic to sevearl people that arn't playing. I was trying to send CKS a picture of this little puppy I'm taking care of and he wouldn't stand still for a pic and turned around... And SNAP, dog butthole.
So between LLL and Kdogg I'm really not sure who to pick. Both of them have brought my name up at points in the game. Neither really were calling me mafia but I don't really understand what they see about me that is suspicious.
So between LLL and Kdogg I'm really not sure who to pick. Both of them have brought my name up at points in the game. Neither really were calling me mafia but I don't really understand what they see about me that is suspicious.
I'm going to read over and vote here in a minute.
To be clear, I was talking about their words not necesslarly their votes for me this round. LLL always votes for me anyway.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
So between LLL and Kdogg I'm really not sure who to pick. Both of them have brought my name up at points in the game. Neither really were calling me mafia but I don't really understand what they see about me that is suspicious.
I'm going to read over and vote here in a minute.
To be clear, I was talking about their words not necesslarly their votes for me this round. LLL always votes for me anyway.
That's ironic because my two suspicious ones are you and KDogg. It seemed unusual to me that you were suspicious of LLL and left your vote on her. Although I did vote for her and left my vote there too I didn't see her as any more suspicious than EAP or Bacon. I guess I just voted for KDogg because it seemed like Pot Kettle Black for me to be voting for you for doing essentially the same thing I did. I would have changed to Viking though if things got close.
And I might move off of KDogg if I pick anything out of that first day mess.
To be clear, I was talking about their words not necesslarly their votes for me this round. LLL always votes for me anyway.
That's ironic because my two suspicious ones are you and KDogg. It seemed unusual to me that you were suspicious of LLL and left your vote on her. Although I did vote for her and left my vote there too I didn't see her as any more suspicious than EAP or Bacon. I guess I just voted for KDogg because it seemed like Pot Kettle Black for me to be voting for you for doing essentially the same thing I did. I would have changed to Viking though if things got close.
And I might move off of KDogg if I pick anything out of that first day mess.
Well, LLL was never in any real trouble and I think I did a fair job of explaning why I thought Viking was probably innocent.... And why I felt the mafia were sitting pretty comfortable for most of the first round. Something about LLL's wording just seemed off to me early on but her ending up in the runoff the way she did makes me think her and viking are both townies. Maybe I'm wrong and Viking was mafia. LLL is right in saying that he has acted in that fashion when he's been mafia.
That's ironic because my two suspicious ones are you and KDogg. It seemed unusual to me that you were suspicious of LLL and left your vote on her. Although I did vote for her and left my vote there too I didn't see her as any more suspicious than EAP or Bacon. I guess I just voted for KDogg because it seemed like Pot Kettle Black for me to be voting for you for doing essentially the same thing I did. I would have changed to Viking though if things got close.
And I might move off of KDogg if I pick anything out of that first day mess.
Well, LLL was never in any real trouble and I think I did a fair job of explaning why I thought Viking was probably innocent.... And why I felt the mafia were sitting pretty comfortable for most of the first round. Something about LLL's wording just seemed off to me early on but her ending up in the runoff the way she did makes me think her and viking are both townies. Maybe I'm wrong and Viking was mafia. LLL is right in saying that he has acted in that fashion when he's been mafia.
That's what I figured and those were my thoughts too. Viking is hard to read and he was just as vehemently in denial when he was Mafia too. There's not a lot to go on. Even MikeD might not be Mafia this time.
Hmmm, MC, Nic, LLL and Quacker are the only ones with no votes. No doudt a mafia member is in that group, for reasons both obvious and not so.
I'm going with Kdogg because he really didn't explain his vote for me. Dog butthole isn't a good enoghe reason. Plus, he did slip out of the runoff last round.
EAP >> Bacon LLL >> SFA Bacon >> EAP Mike D >> EAP MC >> Bacon KDogg >> SFA Quacker >> KDogg Nic >> Mike D SFA >> KDogg ________________
Will see how things look in the am and post a deadline then. If not much changing - it will be noonish tomorrow, if a lot of activity then sometime tomorrow night, depending on conversation of course.
SFA, my vote for you was a vote against catching up on my messages over morning coffee and seeing a butthole.
That being said, I'm willing to change my vote. Viking had said back there that he thought it should have been a runoff between LLL & EAP. I'm fine with that approach if you are.
So I'm proposing a deal: you & I both switch our votes to LLL, sparing each of us a runoff. Compromise?
SFA, my vote for you was a vote against catching up on my messages over morning coffee and seeing a butthole.
That being said, I'm willing to change my vote. Viking had said back there that he thought it should have been a runoff between LLL & EAP. I'm fine with that approach if you are.
So I'm proposing a deal: you & I both switch our votes to LLL, sparing each of us a runoff. Compromise?
I'm not against some sort of compromise but I'm not sure if LLL is the correct choice. We might get more information getting some fresh meat into a runoff. I'd rather have another Viking voter. If the mafia thought she was inspector, she was probably voting opposite the name they thought she had.
Edit to clarify: she = NBF in that last sentence.
Last Edit: Jun 19, 2012 20:16:22 GMT -5 by Deleted - Back to Top
Viking>> LLL SFA >> LLL LLL >> Viking Nic >> Viking EAP >> Viking Bacon >> LLL >> Viking Quacker >> Bacon >> LLL MC >> Viking KDogg >> Viking NBF >> LLL Mike D >> LLL
So, if not you or me or LLL... and EAP & Bacon are already in the running... you mean to suggest Nic or MC? I'm curious to hear why these alternatives are a better bet.
Viking>> LLL SFA >> LLL LLL >> Viking Nic >> Viking EAP >> Viking Bacon >> LLL >> Viking Quacker >> Bacon >> LLL MC >> Viking KDogg >> Viking NBF >> LLL Mike D >> LLL
So, if not you or me or LLL... and EAP & Bacon are already in the running... you mean to suggest Nic or MC? I'm curious to hear why these alternatives are a better bet.
We can't know for sure but as I said above if the mafia thought NBF was inspector then they probably thought she had the name of someone voting oppisite her. I guess it depends on if you think Viking was mafia or not. Personally, I don't think he was. I was mafia with him last game and I think he had learned a lot from his first time as mafia. He was a lot less reckless then he was in his first game as mafia.
So that leaves us with Nic and MC. One or maybe both of them are probably being honest with there reasons for voting him. That said. Viking would be the perfect person to pull a vote like that off on because he has gotten into disagreements with almost everyone he has played with. If I were mafia, I'd take a chance using that excuse because I would know most of the players would at least have to consider that I'm being honest about it.
I openly admit that this has it's downsides. For one, the voting in the first round isn't the best data we've ever had to go off of.
Last Edit: Jun 19, 2012 21:54:02 GMT -5 by Deleted - Back to Top
If we are to switch, it seems pointless to switch ours to Nic. He'll just jump from his lone vote to one of us & put one of us back in the runoff, which kind of defeats the point of us making a deal.
So, is it MC or no deal? That's what it seems like to me.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
you know what LLL, that's exactly what i was thinking.
SFA, why are you even bargaining with kdogg?? don't you remember how he weaseled his way out of a runoff the first time?
Several reasons. I wanted to get him talking so I could see what names he might bring up. Depending on what names the inspector knows this might help them out later on down the line. It's not like other people can't switch their votes anyway.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
No, not really. If anyone asked me to make a deal I'd want to get them talking to see what they said. Just to see if they slip or try to lead me away from certain people.
He could say the same about me because I was the one that suggested who I'd like in the runoff. As I said, hopefully it might help narrow things down for the inspector. That just depends on what names they have so far.
Ohhh, I forgot. Kdogg, I'm going to switch to MC but I might switch to someone else before the runoff. That depends on what MC has to say and feedback from everyone else.
I smell cigar smoke hovering around the two players I have the most suspicion about.
Why would we feel the need to draw this much attention to ourselves if we were both mafia? We put each other in contention for the runoff to begin with. Wouldn't be a very smart plan.
Are you sure I can't talk you into voting for LLL? I was more curious to see how you'd react to putting her into a runoff at this point than to cast votes for a different player.
Think what we will about why NBF got whacked, as we should, but I also think it worth investigating those for whom the deceased player cast votes while alive. In this case it is NBF, SFA, myself and LLL - in that order.
Now, I know the rest of you can't be as sure of my role as I can, but I know I can rule myself out of suspicion here. Which is why I look at these two in this post, but I understand if you want to give me some scrutiny for meeting these same criteria without knowing my role.
We know there was a component of backlash in voting against Viking, but was that really the reason all six of those votes were cast? I think that statistically, it's more likely that a majority of our Mafia cast votes for Viking. I'm not saying that necessarily implicates LLL, but it doesn't discount it either. If it can be argued the Mafia preferred to see Viking dead, it follows that it can also be argued the Mafia preferred to see LLL alive. I don't know exactly how it comes into play, but it's worth noting that the deciding vote arguably hinged on Bacon switching back there.
So, I'm looking into these two, want to know more, and thought an opportunity presented itself with SFA. I'm not too comfortable basing my vote for him on a butthole, and I haven't intended on my final vote being against SFA. I thought it might be worthwhile to test him. I'm really more curious about his willingness to vote for LLL, in part for reasons explained above as well as for reasons about to be explained below.
Why? Because I'm looking at how the dead players voted.
Also, should I make it so far into the game, I should probably mention that I will be unavailable for the better part of Thursday.
My girlfriend's grandmother died on Sunday and we have to drive down to Illinois with her sister for the funeral. I'll check in from my phone when/if I can, but I have a feeling I'll be busy being introduced to a lot of Tanya's relatives (only met two thus far) under awkward/uncomfortable circumstances while I'm not on the road.