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C'mon, don't phrase it to make it seem like I'm equating him to an elk.
The guy was shooting at cops, that gives the cops the right to shoot back.
Wasn't my intention with 'free game', honestly.
But I don't think we should just resign to shooting folks that demonstrated the potential to kill others. I know it's naively idealistic, but killing another human should be avoided at all cost.
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Marilyn Manson refused to speak of Columbine or make any TV appearances for a long time after because he didn't want to give them the publicity. He had the right idea. It's the fact that we "glamorize" (for lack of a better word) these people that keeps other people copying them.
Two months after it happened he had a huge article in Rolling Stone about it. I am not saying he's wrong about glamorizing this kind of stuff but he definitely did address it in a big way shortly after the events.
Dave I have got a couple "RIP Rambo Dorner" posts. It's stupid. Glorifying ANY type of crime is what keeps things like this happening. School shooters are given more TV time then the teachers who protected students.
Marilyn Manson refused to speak of Columbine or make any TV appearances for a long time after because he didn't want to give them the publicity. He had the right idea. It's the fact that we "glamorize" (for lack of a better word) these people that keeps other people copying them.
I think some of the glorification comes from people wanting to know how things can get that upside down for someone. I would venture a vast majority people don't wake up with the thought of going on a killing spree and most can't even conceptualize the idea of it in their head. That being said, there is a line between curiosity and making them into some sort of folk hero like people seem to be doing with Dormer.
C'mon, don't phrase it to make it seem like I'm equating him to an elk.
The guy was shooting at cops, that gives the cops the right to shoot back.
Wasn't my intention with 'free game', honestly.
But I don't think we should just resign to shooting folks that demonstrated the potential to kill others. I know it's naively idealistic, but killing another human should be avoided at all reasonable cost.
C'mon, don't phrase it to make it seem like I'm equating him to an elk.
The guy was shooting at cops, that gives the cops the right to shoot back.
Wasn't my intention with 'free game', honestly.
But I don't think we should just resign to shooting folks that demonstrated the potential to kill others. I know it's naively idealistic, but killing another human should be avoided at all cost.
No offense taken, I just didn't want you thinking I saw the guy as an animal because of what happened.
To your other comment I'd simply say Dorner didn't just demonstrate the potential to kill, he demonstrated a willingness. Obviously any time a shootout happens and people don't walk away it's not the ideal outcome, but if it comes to a choice between law enforcement and suspect (the way Dorner made it with his actions)? I can't fault the law enforcement for taking extreme measures (meaning killing a person).
Im presenting for the corporate big wigs in 52 minutes. If all goes well, Ill get a gold star and the green light on a project Ive been defending for 2 years. However, this means that I may have to bow out of Wanee to handle the project. My professional self knows what it has to do. My unprofessional, highly irresponsible self is full force right now.
And clearly you aren't a rapist (I hope) but the way you pop into any thread where a woman happens to be lamenting her lack of ride to Bonnaroo and tell them to come hop on your bus sounds extremely rapey.
But I don't think we should just resign to shooting folks that demonstrated the potential to kill others. I know it's naively idealistic, but killing another human should be avoided at all cost.
No offense taken, I just didn't want you thinking I saw the guy as an animal because of what happened.
To your other comment I'd simply say Dorner didn't just demonstrate the potential to kill, he demonstrated a willingness. Obviously any time a shootout happens and people don't walk away it's not the ideal outcome, but if it comes to a choice between law enforcement and suspect (the way Dorner made it with his actions)? I can't fault the law enforcement for taking extreme measures (meaning killing a person).
Yeah I think I'm just lamenting the fact that humans have to die in general. Life, ya know?
Anyways, I discovered the hard way today that we don't have a plunger at my place.
I havent read much of this argument, but I could personally care less if they purposely burned him alive. The guy was a terrorist. He got what he deserved.
April 12-14th - Indio, CA - Coachella Weekend 1
May 3-5th - Memphis, TN - Beale St. Music Festival
June 13-16th - Manchester, TN - Bonnaroo
July 12-14th - Louisville, KY - Forecastle Festival
August 2-4th - Chicago, IL - Lollapalooza
September 27-29th - Atlanta, GA - TomorrowWorld
October 25-27th - Asheville, NC - Mountain Oasis
Im presenting for the corporate big wigs in 52 minutes. If all goes well, Ill get a gold star and the green light on a project Ive been defending for 2 years. However, this means that I may have to bow out of Wanee to handle the project. My professional self knows what it has to do. My unprofessional, highly irresponsible self is full force right now.
I havent read much of this argument, but I couldn't personally care less if they purposely burned him alive. The guy was a terrorist. He got what he deserved.
April 12-14th - Indio, CA - Coachella Weekend 1
May 3-5th - Memphis, TN - Beale St. Music Festival
June 13-16th - Manchester, TN - Bonnaroo
July 12-14th - Louisville, KY - Forecastle Festival
August 2-4th - Chicago, IL - Lollapalooza
September 27-29th - Atlanta, GA - TomorrowWorld
October 25-27th - Asheville, NC - Mountain Oasis
April 12-14th - Indio, CA - Coachella Weekend 1
May 3-5th - Memphis, TN - Beale St. Music Festival
June 13-16th - Manchester, TN - Bonnaroo
July 12-14th - Louisville, KY - Forecastle Festival
August 2-4th - Chicago, IL - Lollapalooza
September 27-29th - Atlanta, GA - TomorrowWorld
October 25-27th - Asheville, NC - Mountain Oasis
This may or may not have been brought up. I just searched for insider under the members page to "follow" her. And he's not there. Did she delete her account?
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