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This has probably already been discussed in this thread and I probably just can't find it... but are there any Beatles fans on this board?
If so... what box set would you recommend? Mono or Stereo?
I keep hearing how some of the Mono albums (the original sound) offer a unique experience and sound outstanding... but some of the stereo versions of other albums sound better (especially for people who did not grow up with that original "mono sound").
Are they worth the price?
I also found this youtube video on some of the differences:
This has probably already been discussed in this thread and I probably just can't find it... but are there any Beatles fans on this board?
If so... what box set would you recommend? Mono or Stereo?
I keep hearing how some of the Mono albums (the original sound) offer a unique experience and sound outstanding... but some of the stereo versions of other albums sound better (especially for people who did not grow up with that original "mono sound").
Are they worth the price?
I also found this youtube video on some of the differences:
Generally, I tend towards: if the original mix was in mono, I want my album to be in mono.
So with The Beatles, everything in mono except Abbey Road and Let It Be, which are stereo originals.
The new Beatles mono vinyl box is an incredibly rare type of repressing, since it truly is all analog, from recording to mastering to pressing. I only own Sgt. Peppers but it sounds freaking awesome, and will eventually collect the other albums (or just buy the box).
So short answer to your question: mono! then just buy the stereo of Abbey Road and Let It Be (which won't be in the mono box set since they were the only two beatles records recorded in stereo).
While we are discussing the Beatles, I recently bought the 'Love' soundtrack. It is amazing and I recommend purchasing it. For those that haven't seen the play, I would still recommend it. All the Beatles releases are either reissues or bootlegs so it's nice to hear at least a reworking of the songs done by professionals, it kinda sounds like a remix album. This soundtrack will tease the intro of a song and then segues into something else. Some songs will isolate the vocals or eliminate an instrument or two from the original song. Normally, I would say that is blasphemous but it really sounds great. I've played it probably 15 times in the last 10 days. It's also one of the few albums where I can notice the difference in quality in my new TT setup. It's an A+.
Also, I'm pretty diligent with updating my discogs but one slipped past me. I now own two copies of Beatles for Sale. If anybody wants to paypal/chase quick pay me a few bucks for shipping, you can have my extra. It's the recent reissue (stereo, 2012): www.discogs.com/Beatles-Beatles-For-Sale/release/4059553 I listened to it once and when I was putting it away, I noticed its twin.
Agreed, love really works. I have the DVD-A which supposedly has a really good 5.1 surround mix, but I've never heard it because I don't have a surround system. But even in stereo its surprisingly cool to hear all these great tunes remixed and reimagined.
I've never seen the actual Cirque. When we went to Vegas summer before last we saw the Michael Jackson one instead... WHICH WAS AWESOME. it's easy to hate on Cirque from afar but when you are there it's like "this is the greatest performance of anything I've ever seen ever".
I just got an audio technica player with Fleetwood Mac - Rumours Outkast - Stankonia Arcade Fire - The Suburbs Wu Tang Clan - 36 Chambers Beck - Morning Phase
So, I have a noob question. Am I safe in assuming that all 12" LPs are played at 33 rpm unless otherwise stated, or is there somewhere on the album sleeve where it says which speed it should be played at?
So, I have a noob question. Am I safe in assuming that all 12" LPs are played at 33 rpm unless otherwise stated, or is there somewhere on the album sleeve where it says which speed it should be played at?
Yes that is a safe assumption. Generally if the record is intended to be played at 45RPM that is a selling point (some claim records sound better at 45RPM) so it should clearly state somewhere on the record its intended to be played at 45RPM. This is not always the case, but it generally is.
Any recommendations on the best place online to purchase records? Over if the albums I'm looking for is Yeezus, and there are some on Amazon and discogs but they are listed as unofficial. I assume this means that it wasn't actually released by the artist, and would be a rip off? What say you guys?
Any recommendations on the best place online to purchase records? Over if the albums I'm looking for is Yeezus, and there are some on Amazon and discogs but they are listed as unofficial. I assume this means that it wasn't actually released by the artist, and would be a rip off? What say you guys?
yeah there is no official Yeezus vinyl that I'm aware of, anything you see for sale is probably a bootleg, caveat emptor.
Places online I buy vinyl from:
1. Elusive Disc 2. Music Direct 3. Amazon
That's new releases. When it comes to used vinyl I only use my local record store now. When I first got into vinyl I bought a ton of vinyl on eBay, and 70% of what I bought was so damaged it was unlistenable. Used vinyl is a great example of when an expert in their field can help you. If they know what they're doing there won't be any damaged records in the store, but even so at least I can visually inspect the record before I buy it.
Got my SVS Ultra Towers in about a week ago. Apologies for the crappy pictures, the camera on my phone is terrible.
Here is a copy n' paste review I posted on another forum:
Short version: they are awesome
Long version:
Shipment - They ship via freight and arrive on a pallet. Shipping weight is 175 pounds. Had the delivery guy put them in my garage.
That night I got a little too excited and wanted to see them really bad, so I opened up one of them and stood it up. I accidentally pushed on one of the woofers when I stood it up, so started worrying I damaged them. Convinced Melody to help me bring them inside. While it is possible for one person to lift these (75lbs a speaker), they are so unwieldy I would not recommend it.
Brought the single in and of course listened to it. Even with just one speaker I knew I would be pleased.
The next day my helpful local audio friend came over and helped me get the other one in. I had a thumb drive with a bunch of flacs and we put the speakers through their paces. Both speakers were being powered by my Denon 2112CI receiver in direct mode, I haven't had a chance to run Audyssey yet. Brief rundown:
Highs: No issues here, definitely not any excessive brightness to speak of, but there is nothing at all missing either. I'm a fan, I think smooth is the word, but smooth without being dull. Smooth is a word I think of a lot with these speakers, that and fun.
Midrange: Big surprise, I thought this would be where the speaker fell short, but all my standard midrange tests went perfectly. Sure, I don't get that "ryan adams is sitting in front of me" feeling I get with the Quad ESL-63, but it comes a hell of a lot closer than I thought it would, and everything sounds perfectly realistic and smooth. Electric guitar wails like a champ.
Bass: Hallelujah. The four 8" woofers in these things pressurize my room better than my seven year old SVS cylinder sub does, and they don't sound stressed at all. Every bass test I throw at these things it handles with no issues, even with just the 90 watts I'm giving them. But it does it all without sounding the least bit bloated or compressed. We listened to Tool "Forty Six and Two" and goddamn it was perfect. The bass never feels out of control.
Soundstage: I pretty much have the speakers firing straight ahead, maybe just the tiniest bit of toe in. Soundstage between the speakers is perfectly lovely, but they don't seem to throw the stage too wide outside the speakers. I personally don't give a shit about soundstage, I'm more of a tone guy, but it was kind of spooky cool the way my old PSB monitors would throw a soundstage all across the width of the room. Some toe-in might fix this but I'm not too eager to experiment since everything tonally is damn near perfect for my taste.
I've done a lot of TV and movie watching with these and they are great there too. In my room, there is absolutely no need for a center channel, and that was definitely not the case with my PSBs. Vocals are super easy to understand. But I'll still be buying the center channel because why the hell not? Speech will probably be even better with the center. The bass makes everything sound very epic and theatre-like. Having said that, the lowest of the lows you aren't going to get with this or probably any tower. The towers are flat to the upper 20s, which is plenty low for most music, barring James Blake or organ symphonies. I'll still be upgrading my subwoofer (to another SVS of course) at some point in the future, as home theater has become more and more important to me, and I want a flat response down to 20hz or lower for that movie rumble. But I'm really in no rush to do so.
I tried to avoid hyperbole in my above impressions, but rest assured I am absolutely thrilled with the speakers, I really wouldn't change a thing. I'm completely surprised and delighted with how refined and "audiophile" the sound is, while still managing to be a shitload of fun. The shitload of fun part, mainly because of the bass, is the speakers biggest "audiophile" sin. I'm so glad these speakers are sinners.
Did I mention they are really really good looking? My pictures above don't do them justice.
I anticipate enjoying these for a long time to come.
Postjack International Absolute Audiophile Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence
Update just for inforoo: I setup the Rega P3/24 in here yesterday, and today I opened my copy of the Grateful Dead's "American Beauty" (the new MFSL 45RPM) I received a few weeks ago and gave it a spin today. It sounds really, really spectacular. The excellent bass performance of the Ultra Towers really shined with this album. Not only did it pressurize the room well, but I could hear every note of Lesh's intricate bass lines. Pigpen's vocals during "Passenger" sounded super spooky cool. This is such a great sounding album.
Any recommendations on the best place online to purchase records? Over if the albums I'm looking for is Yeezus, and there are some on Amazon and discogs but they are listed as unofficial. I assume this means that it wasn't actually released by the artist, and would be a rip off? What say you guys?
yeah there is no official Yeezus vinyl that I'm aware of, anything you see for sale is probably a bootleg, caveat emptor.
Places online I buy vinyl from:
1. Elusive Disc 2. Music Direct 3. Amazon
That's new releases. When it comes to used vinyl I only use my local record store now. When I first got into vinyl I bought a ton of vinyl on eBay, and 70% of what I bought was so damaged it was unlistenable. Used vinyl is a great example of when an expert in their field can help you. If they know what they're doing there won't be any damaged records in the store, but even so at least I can visually inspect the record before I buy it.
I completely agree. Best Buy and Amazon's marketplace are also great options. I have gotten some outstanding deals at Best Buy.
Your local record store will sometimes be a great option for limited edition copies of albums (limited edition vinyl in colors, etc). I also discover a lot of great local bands there, too.
Amazon saves a mp3 version of all vinyl to your account purchased new through them, which is a great plus.
I only purchase from eBay if it's new or like new. Used vinyl purchased online can be sketchy, from my experience.
I appreciate your help. At first I loaded up the cart, but then realized that I was being foolish trying to buy that many. It's just exciting to finally start collecting. I was able to chop it down to two records and some sleeves. And now I have a list of ones I intend on buying next, and with a birthday coming up, an answer to the people asking me what they should get.
Any recommendations on the best place online to purchase records? Over if the albums I'm looking for is Yeezus, and there are some on Amazon and discogs but they are listed as unofficial. I assume this means that it wasn't actually released by the artist, and would be a rip off? What say you guys?
You've gotten great recommendations already but I will add Discogs.com. All vendors are peer reviewed and you can make a watch list for records that you want. That's how I snagged a few records I've never seen anywhere else.
Post by Dale Cooper on Dec 27, 2014 19:16:58 GMT -5
For xmas i got: D'Angelo - Voodoo Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West Bob Dylan - Side Tracks The Clash - Give Em Enough Rope And the next Jack White vault release.
Pearl Jam's "Ten" Deluxe LP Brian Jonestown Massacre's "Strung Out In Heaven" Foals' "Antidotes" Jesus and Mary Chain's "Darklands" Strand of Oaks' "Heal" Phantogram's "Nightlife"
If you buy vinyl online, why anyone would use anything other than Amazon, Insound, or Discogs (if you're not buying direct from the artist or label) is beyond me.
If you buy vinyl online, why anyone would use anything other than Amazon, Insound, or Discogs (if you're not buying direct from the artist or label) is beyond me.
Yea, it's really best to stick with those guys. I would also recommend FatPossum.com (only certain artists) and Bull Moose Records (record store that sells stuff online). All of those places have their shit together.
I ordered two items from CCMusic.com (Wilco box set and a stand up comedy record) because they had an awesome black friday/holiday deal which was 25% off your order. It saved me a ton of money.......at first. The Wilco box set was a pre-order. After the release date came and went I contacted the store and asked what was up and they said it was just backordered. No big deal.....I can wait for it. The money I saved was worth putting up with a few more days/weeks. Then I get a notice saying that my order was cancelled because the item was discontinued and no longer available. So now I've got to order it from the band directly (Like I originally planned to do) and pay more than it cost when it was a pre-order and I don't even have the music to listen to.
Definitely go with the few that can be trusted. Won't ever be buying from CCMusic.com again. It seemed sketchy going into it but I gave them a chance.
If you buy vinyl online, why anyone would use anything other than Amazon, Insound, or Discogs (if you're not buying direct from the artist or label) is beyond me.
I remember us both having some bad words about Pop Market a while back after our initial impressions, but I have gotten a few things from them since then (offers I couldn't refuse) and they have been shipped in a timely manner and they're packaging is top notch. Obviously, that's not a place to go to find something specific, but just something you check to see what the deal of the day is. But seriously, they have stepped up their game big time on shipping.
Whenever Insound had that huge moving sale a few months ago, I got some stuff and it was very poorly packaged. Luckily nothing was damaged aside from the box, but it pissed me off that the outside box was really the only layer of protection aside from like 1 sheet of cardboard when there was like 5 records in there.
Wait, some places mix them together? That should be a federal crime.
If only I knew a good lawyer...
It was sorted by genre but I found the Jungle album in soul sooooo not that well done. With the used records, the end of a letter will be a bunch of random finds, most shit but some good. A lot of the new albums were mixed in there and it was such a chore. Also the new albums are kept in the back and you brought up the empty sleeve like a VHS box at Blockbuster video. So my Caribou album was already cut open. It doesn't make a monetary difference to me but opening the thing is part of the experience.
I don't think I'd ever trust a store that does that - it's buying "like new" but at a "new" price.
Has anyone tried "Vinyl Me Please"? It's similar to Third Man Records but they send out a limited edition album each month and include unique artwork, etc.
If you buy vinyl online, why anyone would use anything other than Amazon, Insound, or Discogs (if you're not buying direct from the artist or label) is beyond me.
For most vinyl I agree, but a lot of the releases I'm interested in (MFSL, ORG, all these recent jazz remasters, etc) are either waaaay overpriced on amazon or only available from sites like Elusive Disc or Music Direct.
Has anyone tried "Vinyl Me Please"? It's similar to Third Man Records but they send out a limited edition album each month and include unique artwork, etc.
I requested an invite for it just to see their price a couple of days ago and got the invite yesterday with the options: $27 / month (album) $75 / 3 month (saves 10%) - $25/album $284 / annual (saves (13%) - $23.67/album Think I'm gonna try out the 3 month deal.