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Just read the Silver Linings Playbook discussion that was had two pages ago. Disappointed in you guys, Dave, chico, and tackitt. I don't see how you guys didn't enjoy that movie more, but to each his own obviously.
The characters are most certainly not one-dimensional and their issues are definitely not skirted (David O. Russell would never in a million years miss a chance to examine a character's issues).
And not sure what you read, Dave, but it got absolute rave reviews:
Don't misunderstand me there I liked the movie. I'm just shocked it was cleaning up awards nominations like it was. And I still think that if anyone asked me I'd tell them to see it, I just don't rush to tell everyone you HAVE to see that movie, as I would Django. I'm glad you enjoyed it as much as you did, and I'm sure many would agree with your sentiment on it. I'd highly urge you to read the book as well. I'm working through it right now, and it is much much different in terms of character relationships. Not quite sure how I feel about it just yet.
Also, agreed here. I enjoyed the movie, but I am surprised at the critical acclaim. IMO it was a well executed Rom/Com with a touch of the serious. Also, I dont particularly like David O Russell. I think I Heart Huckabees is one of the most worthless movies I've ever seen and should be on MST3K.
I saw Django last night. I can see why people enjoy it so much but it's not for me. I'd probably rank it as my least favorite Tarantino movie. I thought it was well made and acted, but the writing and characters clash with my sensibilities.
Yeah about Django. I can't really see why so many people are in love with it. I found it very entertaining nothing really stood out to make it such a Tarantino masterpiece, at least not on the levels of Pulp Fiction or Inglourious Basterds. To me it was just his typical popcorn entertainment revenge flick on the same playing field as Kill Bill. It deserves its Best Pic and Best Supporting Actor noms, but I don't think Tarantino got snubbed for Director the way Affleck or Bigelow did.
if I had to rank Tarantino films:
Pulp Fiction Inglourious Basterds Reservoir Dogs Jackie Brown Kill Bill 1 Django Unchained Kill Bill 2 Death Proof
Yeah about Django. I can't really see why so many people are in love with it. I found it very entertaining nothing really stood out to make it such a Tarantino masterpiece, at least not on the levels of Pulp Fiction or Inglourious Basterds. To me it was just his typical popcorn entertainment revenge flick on the same playing field as Kill Bill. It deserves its Best Pic and Best Supporting Actor noms, but I don't think Tarantino got snubbed for Director the way Affleck or Bigelow did.
if I had to rank Tarantino films:
Pulp Fiction Inglourious Basterds Reservoir Dogs Jackie Brown Kill Bill 1 Django Unchained Kill Bill 2 Death Proof
Agreed. I'd list my QT stuff a little different (Death Proof is so much better then Jackie Brown) but I mostly agree.
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As for Django and the rest of Tarantino's films... I think it's his best since Jackie Brown, but I do tend to think that it has been a tad overhyped. Personally, the script is a strong point to me if you look at it as an exploitation, less serious type of movie. I really liked it, but I'm already a little tired of it after two viewings plus the incessant coverage and discussion it's getting.
To rank:
Pulp Fiction Reservoir Dogs Jackie Brown Django Unchained Inglorious Basterds Kill Bill 2 Kill Bill 1 (I might like it more than the second if not for that entirely too long fight scene at the end. As is, I just enjoyed and felt that I got more out of the second one, but this is the more fun and easily accessible of the two... of course being the first they had to hook people. I will say that I was more excited about the first one before, at, and after its release... I wasn't as excited about the second but I've always thought it was the better of the two.) Death Proof... by a pretty good bit. In fact, not really loved any of the "Grindhouse" series films except for Hobo... the one I found to come off as most authentic and least forced.
As for Django and the rest of Tarantino's films... I think it's his best since Jackie Brown, but I do tend to think that it has been a tad overhyped. Personally, the script is a strong point to me if you look at it as an exploitation, less serious type of movie. I really liked it, but I'm already a little tired of it after two viewings plus the incessant coverage and discussion it's getting.
To rank:
Pulp Fiction Reservoir Dogs Jackie Brown Django Unchained Inglorious Basterds Kill Bill 2 Kill Bill 1 (I might like it more than the second if not for that entirely too long fight scene at the end. As is, I just enjoyed and felt that I got more out of the second one, but this is the more fun and easily accessible of the two... of course being the first they had to hook people. I will say that I was more excited about the first one before, at, and after its release... I wasn't as excited about the second but I've always thought it was the better of the two.) Death Proof... by a pretty good bit. In fact, not really loved any of the "Grindhouse" series films except for Hobo... the one I found to come off as most authentic and least forced.
Post by FuzzyWarbles on Jan 23, 2013 8:49:46 GMT -5
Man, I loved Jackie Brown. It may be my favorite Tarantino film to watch. Not the best, but the funnest. I loved that cast. It is on Netflix Instant too.
Holy shiz. JJ Abrams - Star Wars. Dreams really do come true!
Great director and great writers for Ep. VII is giving me high hopes for the new trilogy. And I'm hoping with Abrams attached to the newest one that maybe Brad Bird will reconsider doing VIII or IX.
Post by klimfactor on Jan 25, 2013 13:11:05 GMT -5
I always place Reservoir Dogs #1, but that's likely because that's when I discovered Tarantino. I'll never forget watching it for the first time soon after it came out, and a few months later my then GF bought me one of the blood-splattered movie posters. It remained on my wall through college and until I got married a little over two years ago. He without a doubt has lived up to - and exceeded - the promise he showed in that film.
I finally saw Amour. Oh my goodness, what a film. Honestly, it destroyed me. Of course that may be because I have two sets of grandparents that were put in very similar situations.
Post by nuevodudezer47 on Feb 5, 2013 23:35:48 GMT -5
Saw Django Unchained a month or so ago, and I came away from it thinking it was the worst QT film for the following reasons:
1) I felt the film made visual choices that undercut what it was trying to accomplish. QT repeatedly shoots exterior western vistas as if he's shooting an interior scene. He uses old fashioned, frankly terrible slow motion techniques lifted from bad 70s exploitation films. More than that, there is a deliberateness to the film that doesn't feel fluid. Now that could also be editing, but then I just have a hard time believing that any editor worth his grain of salt cutting a western scene would avoid wide angle shots altogether.
2) With the exception of the climatic showdown of Waltz and DiCaprio, the action is just quacking boring. Don't get me wrong. I appreciate gore and guns as much as the next guy. Hell, I even love a lot of the movies that QT is tipping his hat too. But watching Django blow a bunch of racist honkies away isn't interesting, most importantly, it's not particularly dramatic. This is partially because we really never get to any sense of who these guys are outside of being racist white dudes. Further, the scenes just aren't executed well.
As a good contrast, go watch the climatic sequence of this past season of Boardwalk Empire when Richard Harrow blows away an entire household of gangsters for how to do what QT wanted to do properly.
3) Both of my previous criticisms could have been fixed with better editing. I can't speculate on what has been lost with Menke's death, but here's what was clear for me. The movie had major pacing issues. In the past, QT has gotten around character development by literally jumping forward and backward in time or dividing his film up in segments. Here he tries a more traditional approach and the end result is I don't believe these characters are true to the film's reality. It feels like they're doing things because QT wants them to (Waltz's choice during the Leo showdown is particularly hard for me to believe from what has come before)
4) There were just some really bad taste choices such as Tarantino himself playing an Australian with the worst Australian accent I've ever heard. The decision to let most of the acts of violence play out on screen. The aforementioned use of bad slow motion technique. The aggressive use of mixed era soundtrack that often felt out of placed or overdone. Needlessly artistic touches such as the blood splashing on the cotton, which played way better in the preview when you thought that sequence might actually be interesting. And Samuel L Jackson's character in general seemed pretty much a bad taste rip off of a Boondocks character. He was cartoony and racist in a way that never felt quite earned, something I think was overlooked by a lot of reviewers because of how well Jackson played him.
As for how I'd rate QT's movies, I'd go: Jackie Brown Pulp Fiction Kill Bill Vol 1 Reservoir Dogs Inglourious Basterds Kill Bill Vol. 2 Death Proof Django Unchained.
As a good contrast, go watch the climatic sequence of this past season of Boardwalk Empire when Richard Harrow blows away an entire household of gangsters for how to do what QT wanted to do properly.
It might be helpful to note that the spoiler is actually a Boardwalk Empire spoiler.
I just got done watching Silver Linings Playbook... I quite enjoyed it, but I'm still pretty surprised at all the award attention it got. Cooper is as good as I guess he can be (and he actually is quite good) as this character, Jennifer Lawrence lets it all out and overacts a good deal here, but her nomination is understandable in the context of the movie and its tone, DeNiro hasn't been this good in anything in at least 15 years, and someone mentioned earlier that Chris Tucker was surprisingly good (which kind of made me go "eh?") and he was shockingly reserved and good, here. The writing was probably the weakest point of the movie, certain plot points really serve no purpose and a lot of the dialogue is just noticeably unrealistic even for a movie with such a ridiculous tone as this. Even if the writing could have been a whole lot stronger, it's still not remotely bad... the characters are interesting and eccentric and carry some of the overwrought dialogue and more head-scratching sequences in the movie. Aside from that, the movie is fairly basic and a very satisfying view, in my opinion, even if it can be a bit silly for its own good and is overly predictable... but, these days, unpredictability is often overrated. A strong ***1/2 out of 5, I would recommend at least giving it a shot to almost anyone.
I can't believe it took me so long to see Moonrise Kingdom, but it was another awesome effort by Wes. I thought the MVP was Edward Norton and Schwartzman. I wanted Schwartzman's character to be a larger part of the story just so I could get a few more laughs from him. Overall, solid writing, solid acting (especially the kids in a nice surprise), and the style was awesome Anderson.
Post by Don Flamenco on Feb 7, 2013 20:09:35 GMT -5
Interested to hear your guys thoughts on The Master.
Saw Django. Awesome of course. Loved Samuel L. Jackson's character. Am I the only one expecting a sequel? Seems like they definitely set it up for more to follow. Haven't read anything about it yet.
Oh yeah, it was pretty great. Can't really say too much, the less you know going in the better. Lots of themes hit upon in this movie, and it definitely has that dark edge to it that There Will Be Blood had, but still had a little bit of the comedy P.T. would use in some of his earlier movies. Just after one viewing tonight, I'd say it's not as good as Boogie Nights or There Will Be Blood, but it's about on the level of Magnolia, and I'd say better than Punch Drunk Love and Hard Eight. Though, I think all of those movies are at least very good. In essence, superb film, check it out.
The Master, as I said above, isn't near PT Anderson's best, but it is still great. It's almost carried by the performances, here... I could nitpick the movie, but it's so extremely well done that it really doesn't matter. After talking to some other people who saw it, I agree with some that it seems like certain themes were thrown into the story just to keep it a little more interesting, as the movie... doesn't really actually do that much. It's a really quite minimalist movie, more so than There Will Be Blood (and I don't know if minimalist is the right word... maybe, understated?), and from an artistic point of view, it's really hard to find anything getting a wide theatrical release that can even compete with it.
and the second time I simply said that I liked it even better. It seems to be pretty polarizing, and I think a lot of people are looking for specific meaning in something that I honestly don't think has a simple, single meaning.
