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I'm sure a thread like this is lying dead on the side of the Music Lounge somewhere. I've made the executive decision that the rudderless and minimal hip-hop discussion on this board is deplorable. This is a thread for anything you want to discuss, any lists you want to compare, whatever.
Oh, and if you try to bring up Lil' B you will be made fun of ruthlessly, so don't scream "Mod!" when it happens.
To get the ball rolling...
2013, thus far, has been a stellar 6+ months of hip-hop. There are big names releasing big solo projects and there are some newcomers putting out some seriously great material. What's caught your eye(ear)? What's your top-5 hip-hop albums thus far in 2013?
.clipping reminds me of Odd Future, just not quite as talented as Tyler/Earl.
I listen to Czarface constantly. Such a great album that no one ever talks about.
My rough list (without ranking) would probably include: Yeezus Magna Carta Czarface Twelve Reasons To Die Then a battle between Acid Rap and Born Sinner for 5th place, probably.
Undisputed favorite for me is Run The Jewels. I loved both Mike and El-P' albums last year and I think they work GREAT together. After that my favorite is probably Chance The Rapper's tape followed by Yeezus and Indogoism by The Underacheivers.
Looking forward to trying out both Magna Carta Holy Grail and Summer Knights by Joey Bada$$ sometime this week.
I know Zapp & I both really liked it. From what I've heard from friends and internet people, it's a really hit-or-miss album. And now that I finished listening to Slow Magic, I'm going to pop that in again.
This will sound like the dumbest question ever, but how do I know the difference between hip hop and rap? Where is the delineation?
I'll try to answer this. Essentially, at least to me, the difference is that rap is a genre of music. On the other hand, hip-hop is a lifestyle, in some points of view a movement. Hip-hop is a way of dressing, speaking, thinking...rap is a platform by which hip-hop has a voice.
Or, if you ask Meth Tical, it's "Rap is a gimmick, but I'm for the hip-hop, the culture."
This will sound like the dumbest question ever, but how do I know the difference between hip hop and rap? Where is the delineation?
Rap is really heavily based on the lyrics and delivery, with less emphasis on the beat or music, whereas hip-hop usually has more variety and interesting going on musically as well. At least that's what I would say. I think it's a fine line, though, as to where the line is drawn between the two.
Undisputed favorite for me is Run The Jewels. I loved both Mike and El-P' albums last year and I think they work GREAT together. After that my favorite is probably Chance The Rapper's tape followed by Yeezus and Indogoism by The Underacheivers.
Looking forward to trying out both Magna Carta Holy Grail and Summer Knights by Joey Bada$$ sometime this week.
Listening to this for the first time right now. I love El-P's early stuff and didn't realize him and Killer Mike had such a close working relationship until I stumbled upon the Pitchfork review of this album/mixtape, probably because I've never listened to Killer Mike, and haven't followed El-P's career.
Just to add in my two cents. Hip Hop is a culture. Rap is part of that culture.
Also, I feel that hip hop releases have been pretty mediocre. Yeezus, Run The Jewels, MCHG, and 12 reasons are really the only ones worth listening to the whole albums. Everything else has had some decent tracks here and there, 1 train on Asap's album is one of my favorite tracks all year, but the album's as a whole are pretty forgettable.
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I'll say what's on all of our minds: Mac Miller's new one doesn't suck.
I was reading some article about it and how he brought in Pretty Lights and Earl Sweatshirt for stuff. I didn't really listen to his prior work and didn't really plan on checking the new one out either but I found it interesting that you'd mention that. That's the sort of feeling I was getting from the author when reading about it.
As someone who isn't a devoted follower of the genre, last year was an awesome year for hip-hop for me. I'd discovered Death Grips in 2011 with Exmilitary, but with two new albums out last year, they hit all new levels of Death Grippiness and I'm really glad that they got all the attention that they did. I love the chaotic, noisy production, MC Ride's delivery is terrifying and powerful, there's really nothing I don't like. My first musical love when I was a kid was punk rock, and Death Grips is far more punk than any punk band I can think of. Their set at roo this year was utter insanity.
Then there was R.A.P. Music, which also completely blew me away. I haven't listened to Run The Jewels yet but it's definitely near the top of my listening list.
That's the sort of feeling I was getting from the author when reading about it.
Utter timidity at calling the album "good?"
Yea, lol. It was kind of like a friend being defensive before he even gets to the point....like he knows you're going to go against whatever he's saying. Sort of like "I know we all like to joke on him but he actually stepped his game up....at least more than his previous efforts".
I'll say what's on all of our minds: Mac Miller's new one doesn't suck.
F*ck. Now I'm so curious.
Honestly, give it a listen. You could not have found a bigger Mac Miller hater than me on this board a year ago. I didn't hate the new album, and I even liked parts of it. It was a weird and awful feeling at first, but you get over it.
Honestly, give it a listen. You could not have found a bigger Mac Miller hater than me on this board a year ago. I didn't hate the new album, and I even liked parts of it. It was a weird and awful feeling at first, but you get over it.
I was late to the Mac Miller hype, but my one friend played his last CD constantly. It was this experience, paired with the atrocities that are his music videos, that turned me into quite the hater. Between the song about his hat, and that stupid @ss thing he does with his little hand, I was sure I was always going to hate him. I have to do this. I can do this.
It's not awful. It's heavily influenced By odd future
It's worth a listen for the FlyLo produced track alone. I'm with Flanz in that I never thought I would listen to Mac Miller (and like it), but the new album is actually good. The production is really solid, and lyrically he isn't nearly as big of a clown as he was in the past.
Can we talk about J. Cole's album too? Most of my friends really only listen to mainstream stuff and it seems pretty much everyone loved Born Sinner. I thought the production was boring and pushed zero boundaries (and oddly enough had no sampling?). Lyrically Cole is just average IMO (at one time I thought he could be above average). Trying to convince my friends the new Mac album was better than Cole's was a bit of a challenge though.
Compare it to 2012, though. I'd take the first 6 months of 2013's top-5 over the top-5 from 2012 in its entirety.
Maybe I should have chosen better words, but compared to where hip-hop has been the past few years, it's a nice rebound year.
You think? 2012 had Ab-Soul, K.R.I.T., Clear Soul Forces, Death Grips, El-P, Joey Bada$$, Kendrick Lamar, Killer Mike, Nas, Oh No, Quakers, Reks, Roc Marciano, Schoolboy Q, Sean Price, Wu-Block.
I'd put Yeezus ahead of everything, but right behind it is Kendrick Lamar. After that? I'm not putting anything that's been released yet this year over El-P or Killer Mike, Joey Bada$$'s tape from last year is better than the one from this year, and I'd take Clear Soul Forces, Nas and Sean Price over most anything I've heard this year as well.
I can't really argue, but I just think when you look at 2013 right now compared to 2012 as a whole, I think it's going to end up being a much better year for hip-hop.
Out of the three Killer Mike/El-P albums the past 14 or so months, I like RAP Music the best, but RTJ is still a great album for me. I'll end up listening to all three of them some days and probably won't skip a song. I'm actually a part of the distinct minority who thinks Summer Knights is on par with 1999. I'm a huge fan of Indigoism, Long. Live. ASAP, Czarface, 12 Reasons To Die, Wolf and Acid Rap. There are other projects that might grow on me the more I listen like Mac Miller's album (Jesus...I'm so embarrassed), Yessir Whatever and Gunplay's mixtape.
And obviously Yeezus and MCHG are on the list. I think when I lay it out, 2013 isn't quite there yet, but when all is said and done it'll be a clear-cut step up from 2012. Plus, Gold PP7's.
Post by Jake Jortles on Jul 9, 2013 17:54:58 GMT -5
Big krit has been my favorite artist of the last 4 years. Enjoyed all of his free releases and the one he charged me for was ok as well
I think I've finally decided that live and let die is my fav kool g rap album.
Kno- death is silent is something I surprisingly still listen to from 2010. Looove the production on that thing.
Aquemini would have been the perfect album if mamacita wasn't on it and there were less skits.
I hate how andre gets all the credit for outkast. Dude hasn't done much of note since stank while speakerboxx, sir lucious, and big bois contributions to idlewild were devastatingly pimpin. Granted, in their primes I'm taking andre most of the time. But even then bb was right there penning many classic hooks and rapping nearly as well as andre.
Post by Mista Don't Play on Jul 10, 2013 13:10:18 GMT -5
I only listened to the album once, but J. Cole's work as a producer has improved A LOT since his last release. I liked his beats before, but they were fairly simple. You can tell he has put a lot of work and effort into improving his craft.
I only listened to the album once, but J. Cole's work as a producer has improved A LOT since his last release. I liked his beats before, but they were fairly simple. You can tell he has put a lot of work and effort into improving his craft.
I do like some of Cole's production, but I thought his production on Kendrick's Hiiipower was better than any track on his own album.
I don't know what to think about the J.Cole album. There are some songs I really like that are done really well, but then there are some songs that never hit me with a toe-tap or anything.