My last post on the discussion (which was a great discussion): I really just wanted to hear what some of you guys had to say on the matter of admiring women, objectification, just the different ideas that popped into my head after reading the Grimes' post. I'm a feminist, and there are many thoughtful, intelligent, maybe even slightly feminist leaning guys who post here. And I love you for it. As a woman who cares deeply about some issues, you help me feel better about this world.
I'll stay out now.
To be clear, I really have no opinion about the content of this thread. The women of Inforoo are better suited for that discussion. I just thought jakicker's justification was very close to "once someone is famous, it's ok to make judgements about their appearance," which is a principle I'm not really ok with. It's certainly true that lots of famous women have made their appearance and sexuality party of their public persona, but I think lots more haven't.
"The problem with GnR is that they suck. The songs suck. Even when they were in their prime they sucked. Remnants of an era of misogynistic sunset strip garbage. Bros who dressed like girls but still acted like high school jocks.
I enjoyed Grimes' quotes. She certainly has strong convictions, many of which I agree with. But, I don't really see anything wrong with celebrating the various beautiful women who are playing Bonnaroo this year. I don't find it offensive, as long, of course, as the comments made are respectful (which most of the inforoo fellas do understand the difference between appreciation and pure objectification).
Looking at the human body is fun. We can't help ourselves. And, obviously, Grimes doesn't like to be "objectified" at all- which is totally her right and choice- but from some of these images (Jilette Johnson in particular), you can tell that the woman is enjoying yourself, is proud of her image. She owns it, her image, just the same as Grimes owns hers, and in both situations, the woman has made that choice.
So, anyway, continue your "ogling."
Top of page...now this just sounds like a rant.
I agree to an extent but things like this are sorta not okay.
objectification implies one is worth nothing except as a thing to be used.
looking at a picture of a hot girl and thinking, wow, i'd like to have sex with her, or at the very least imagine i am in the confines of my own dorm room', just makes you a human being you fucking dolt.