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Post by ilovefestys on Feb 20, 2013 1:26:23 GMT -5
I can't believe after 11 years of attending bonnaroo that I would wake up today to find out that Coachella probably has more jam bands then roo. Who on this quacking board ever thought that coachella might dominate us in jambands this year. This lineup billing is wrong in a lot of ways. I don't believe the Lumineers or the National deserve to be billed higher then the great David Byrne music legend. The focus of the lineup is too much on current short term popular acts over quality acts. For anybody who is raging happy about there being no jam bands im not trying to lobby for jam bands im more objecting to the radical change in musical direction of the top 40 bands. Without jam bands bonnaroo would not be where it is today. in 2002 the festival market was not thriving and most fests that exist today started after roo or the year of roo. Bonnaroo dominates the festival scene but lack of any jam bands is going to radically change the direction of the fest for the future. There is too much indie, rap, bluegrass, folk, weak edm..... needs more rock, jam bands, reggae. It scares me when roo is going after The National as a top 10 instead of an act like Robert Plant. They had the formula right in the past now they are muffing it up. I'm allowed to gripe ive been to all roo's its on a sacred level to me like the rest of you fellow roo'ers
The only reason Bonnaroo started out as a jam festival is because those were the type of music fans who already did festivals and who were most likely to want to buy a ticket. Let's be honest, it's been about money from the first year, not heady jam vibes.
Post by ilovefestys on Feb 20, 2013 1:32:33 GMT -5
Coran Capshaw still owns a sizeable 50% stake or more in equity of Bonnaroo. He is the mega manager of DMB and Phish along with Red light management which manages countless sub popular bands. To think a festival he owns a large majority isn't doing any jam bands does baffle me. The logic of booking DMB or Phish most years is genius because he pulls money out of one pocket and pays the other pocket only makes more money. Without all those devoted jam band fans bonnaroo would not be the number 1 dominate 80k festival in the USA. Jam band fans built this festival they should completely ignore that genre of music and over compensate with many other genres of music with saturation like indie, rap, and folk
WOW.........guys, I have finally got home after a double, only 2 Snoop , get in my PJs, and look at the line-up......jaw on the floor....best since Ive been going(07-TOOL!!!)........the BEST.....going 2 b SO many conflicts.....I, for one, cant wait..............................
Amazing lineup. I'm a huge jam band fan, and I still think this is the best initial lineup they've had in the 5 bonnaroos I've been to. To everyone complaining about bonnaroo not staying to their roots, I'm sure they tried booking disco biscuits, sts9, TAB, furthur, and lotus. But they probably had prior engagements. Who knows maybe we will still get one. Conspirator will be really good. I saw them last year and they killed. It's basically the disco biscuits with a different guitar player.
Amazing lineup. I'm a huge jam band fan, and I still think this is the best initial lineup they've had in the 5 bonnaroos I've been to. To everyone complaining about bonnaroo not staying to their roots, I'm sure they tried booking disco biscuits, sts9, TAB, furthur, and lotus. But they probably had prior engagements. Who knows maybe we will still get one. Conspirator will be really good. I saw them last year and they killed. It's basically the disco biscuits with a different guitar player.
Amazing lineup. I'm a huge jam band fan, and I still think this is the best initial lineup they've had in the 5 bonnaroos I've been to. To everyone complaining about bonnaroo not staying to their roots, I'm sure they tried booking disco biscuits, sts9, TAB, furthur, and lotus. But they probably had prior engagements. Who knows maybe we will still get one. Conspirator will be really good. I saw them last year and they killed. It's basically the disco biscuits with a different guitar player.
Tennessee's hottest music festival has EVERYTHING..
Teddy Graham People Rasta Jellyfish Furkels Human Roombas
Ghosts Banjos Carl Palideno A stuck up kitten who won't sign autographs and just when you think the fun is over, knock knock, who’s there? it’s black George Washington.
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I can't believe after 11 years of attending bonnaroo that I would wake up today to find out that Coachella probably has more jam bands then roo. Who on this quacking board ever thought that coachella might dominate us in jambands this year. This lineup billing is wrong in a lot of ways. I don't believe the Lumineers or the National deserve to be billed higher then the great David Byrne music legend. The focus of the lineup is too much on current short term popular acts over quality acts. For anybody who is raging happy about there being no jam bands im not trying to lobby for jam bands im more objecting to the radical change in musical direction of the top 40 bands. Without jam bands bonnaroo would not be where it is today. in 2002 the festival market was not thriving and most fests that exist today started after roo or the year of roo. Bonnaroo dominates the festival scene but lack of any jam bands is going to radically change the direction of the fest for the future. There is too much indie, rap, bluegrass, folk, weak edm..... needs more rock, jam bands, reggae. It scares me when roo is going after The National as a top 10 instead of an act like Robert Plant. They had the formula right in the past now they are muffing it up. I'm allowed to gripe ive been to all roo's its on a sacred level to me like the rest of you fellow roo'ers
If your mind is blown at the fact that Coach has more jam, you shouldn't look at the Hangout lineup.
I like it a lot, but I am not blown away. I don't think this is their best lineup ever. I still think 2006 was the best Bonnaroo. Phish and Radiohead are my 1A. and 1B. favorite current bands, so there was no way this year was going to top last year for me.
I've been to Roo 9 times. Went to the first 8, skipped 2010 and 2011, and went back in 2012. In those 9 trips I have learned one ultimate truth about the Roo: Bonnaroo transcends lineup.
The sum of the Bonnaroo experience is far greater than the sum of a list of bands announced in february.
While a festival like Roo, which draws a small city to bumblef*ck Tennessee, needs a hugely diverse, and amazing lineup to continue to draw crowds 12 years down the road, ultimately, a true Rooer will have learned that you could go to Bonnaroo with no preconceptions on who or what you will see, and then see and discover wealth of acts that you didn't even know when the lineup was announced in february. To date I have seen some 150 unique acts on the farm. I have discovered more music in the live setting of Bonnaroo over the last 10 years than any singular place, be it digital or analog.
The day after the announcement, I am kind of lukewarm on the lineup. I love the Beatles, and while I would love to see Sir Paul, he isn't exactly on my bucket list. Tom Petty was great at Roo in 06, I expect him to close. Mumford and Sons seems like a particularly weak Headliner. I understand why they are headlining, I just feel it is a poor choice in the line of Jack Johnson (who was ultimately bumped from headlining in 2008). Bjork definitely is on the bucket list. And I love acts like Animal Collective, Jim James, Wilco, David Byrne/St. Vincent, Weird Al etc. There is definitely enough music there to have an amazing time, and Bonnaroo late nights are some of the greatest musical experiences across any music scene, festival or otherwise. If I had one complaint it would be that I don't really understand why they wasted time and money putting R. Kelly and Billy Idol on the lineup. Seems like they could've gotten better washed up acts than that.
I will say, though, that the Jim James Soul Superjam is FAR AND AWAY the best act on the lineup and is likely to be worth the price of admission alone.
Now if they would just add The Cure and Atoms For Peace, I'd be a happy man!!
I like it a lot, but I am not blown away. I don't think this is their best lineup ever. I still think 2006 was the best Bonnaroo. Phish and Radiohead are my 1A. and 1B. favorite current bands, so there was no way this year was going to top last year for me.
I've been to Roo 9 times. Went to the first 8, skipped 2010 and 2011, and went back in 2012. In those 9 trips I have learned one ultimate truth about the Roo: Bonnaroo transcends lineup.
The sum of the Bonnaroo experience is far greater than the sum of a list of bands announced in february.
While a festival like Roo, which draws a small city to bumblef*ck Tennessee, needs a hugely diverse, and amazing lineup to continue to draw crowds 12 years down the road, ultimately, a true Rooer will have learned that you could go to Bonnaroo with no preconceptions on who or what you will see, and then see and discover wealth of acts that you didn't even know when the lineup was announced in february. To date I have seen some 150 unique acts on the farm. I have discovered more music in the live setting of Bonnaroo over the last 10 years than any singular place, be it digital or analog.
The day after the announcement, I am kind of lukewarm on the lineup. I love the Beatles, and while I would love to see Sir Paul, he isn't exactly on my bucket list. Tom Petty was great at Roo in 06, I expect him to close. Mumford and Sons seems like a particularly weak Headliner. I understand why they are headlining, I just feel it is a poor choice in the line of Jack Johnson (who was ultimately bumped from headlining in 2008). Bjork definitely is on the bucket list. And I love acts like Animal Collective, Jim James, Wilco, David Byrne/St. Vincent, Weird Al etc. There is definitely enough music there to have an amazing time, and Bonnaroo late nights are some of the greatest musical experiences across any music scene, festival or otherwise. If I had one complaint it would be that I don't really understand why they wasted time and money putting R. Kelly and Billy Idol on the lineup. Seems like they could've gotten better washed up acts than that.
I will say, though, that the Jim James Soul Superjam is FAR AND AWAY the best act on the lineup and is likely to be worth the price of admission alone.
Now if they would just add The Cure and Atoms For Peace, I'd be a happy man!!
Tennessee's hottest music festival has EVERYTHING..[/quote]
Teddy Graham People Rasta Jellyfish Furkels Human Roombas[/quote]
Ghosts Banjos Carl Palideno A stuck up kitten who won't sign autographs and just when you think the fun is over, knock knock, who’s there? it’s black George Washington.[/quote] jewpids
I just don't get the jam band whining. I guess I get it if you've gone to Roo since the very beginning and seen it move away from it's "roots", but seriously...and I say this with utmost respect for differing musical tastes...get over it. If you can't go to a festival with 150 acts and find enough to more than satisfy the price of a $250 ticket, then I feel sorry for you. I would have like more EDM more in-line with my tastes...but you know what? There are so many damn quality acts on this lineup that I can't even complain. I will always remember walking past Loretta Lynn's tent to go see Eminem...THAT is Bonnaroo. It might not have been Bonnaroo in 2002, but it's Bonnaroo now, and I think it's all the better for it.
The diverse aspect of the Bonnaroo lineup is such a statement of the Bonnaroo mindset, in my mind. We all come together to a farm with different backgrounds, races, cultures, norms, and ideals...and we all mesh together and love one another. The diverse musical selection of Roo I think is reflective of that...and that's not a coincidence. Having a primarily jam-oriented festival singles out a certain crowd, when we should be trying to make everyone happy...the more inclusive, the better. So in that vein...you're not going to get everything you want, but there's something for everyone, and we can all appreciate each other's music just as we can all appreciate each other as individuals.
I would love to know how many people that complain about the sunday jam headliner never intend to stick around sunday anyway
I mean like I give a shiz about Petty instead of Panic, hell I would prefer Petty. I just think that there are two bluegrass acts (and I am sure Sam and Del with play with Ed Helms??? as well), there is one world music act, one maybe two metal acts, and one contemporary non "indie" rock act, and the same generic edm we get every year. It is a pretty uninspired lineup, and VERY one dimensional for all the larger acts. Sure if you like trendy indie bands, and white boy hip hop it is a pretty good lineup, if not it is subpar compared to most years.
The diverse aspect of the Bonnaroo lineup is such a statement of the Bonnaroo mindset, in my mind. We all come together to a farm with different backgrounds, races, cultures, norms, and ideals...and we all mesh together and love one another. The diverse musical selection of Roo I think is reflective of that...and that's not a coincidence. Having a primarily jam-oriented festival singles out a certain crowd, when we should be trying to make everyone happy...the more inclusive, the better. So in that vein...you're not going to get everything you want, but there's something for everyone, and we can all appreciate each other's music just as we can all appreciate each other as individuals.
End rant
Bonnaroo has not been jam oriented since 2006, but what makes you call this a diverse lineup compared to the past few years? My argument is not lack of jam bands but lack of overall diversity.
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I would love to know how many people that complain about the sunday jam headliner never intend to stick around sunday anyway
I mean like I give a shiz about Petty instead of Panic, hell I would prefer Petty. I just think that there are two bluegrass acts (and I am sure Sam and Del with play with Ed Helms??? as well), there is one world music act, one maybe two metal acts, and one contemporary non "indie" rock act, and the same generic edm we get every year. It is a pretty uninspired lineup, and VERY one dimensional for all the larger acts. Sure if you like trendy indie bands, and white boy hip hop it is a pretty good lineup, if not it is subpar compared to most years.
I wouldn't say its one dimensional, I think its the best indie rock, classic rock, and rap lineup in years. I am surprised by the lack of jam/metal/world/bluegrass but I won't be surprised if the additions smooth this out. Last year they added a whole tent of world music late, as well as metal acts (Danzig Legacy), bluegrass acts (Infamous string dusters, sam bush). I will be surprised if jam bands aren't added to the lineup. I don't see how they can take 1-2 jam bands when STS9, and other non-headlining jam bands seem to be on the market. That being said Im sure mule will get a huge late night so they can continue that jam tradition (Umphreys last year, other bands in the past)
The diverse aspect of the Bonnaroo lineup is such a statement of the Bonnaroo mindset, in my mind. We all come together to a farm with different backgrounds, races, cultures, norms, and ideals...and we all mesh together and love one another. The diverse musical selection of Roo I think is reflective of that...and that's not a coincidence. Having a primarily jam-oriented festival singles out a certain crowd, when we should be trying to make everyone happy...the more inclusive, the better. So in that vein...you're not going to get everything you want, but there's something for everyone, and we can all appreciate each other's music just as we can all appreciate each other as individuals.
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Bonnaroo has not been jam oriented since 2006, but what makes you call this a diverse lineup compared to the past few years? My argument is not lack of jam bands but lack of overall diversity.
In my mind, any festival where I can go see Paul McCartney, Wu-Tang Clan, R Kelly, Weird Al, Pretty Lights, and Billy Idol is pretty diverse.
I would love to know how many people that complain about the sunday jam headliner never intend to stick around sunday anyway
I mean like I give a shiz about Petty instead of Panic, hell I would prefer Petty. I just think that there are two bluegrass acts (and I am sure Sam and Del with play with Ed Helms??? as well), there is one world music act, one maybe two metal acts, and one contemporary non "indie" rock act, and the same generic edm we get every year. It is a pretty uninspired lineup, and VERY one dimensional for all the larger acts. Sure if you like trendy indie bands, and white boy hip hop it is a pretty good lineup, if not it is subpar compared to most years.
Dive more into the lineup. There is a good bit of world music. There is more on their than you think. You just have to listen to some of the acts. I think it is a very diverse lineup. Also, white boy hip hop?
I mean like I give a shiz about Petty instead of Panic, hell I would prefer Petty. I just think that there are two bluegrass acts (and I am sure Sam and Del with play with Ed Helms??? as well), there is one world music act, one maybe two metal acts, and one contemporary non "indie" rock act, and the same generic edm we get every year. It is a pretty uninspired lineup, and VERY one dimensional for all the larger acts. Sure if you like trendy indie bands, and white boy hip hop it is a pretty good lineup, if not it is subpar compared to most years.
Dive more into the lineup. There is a good bit of world music. There is more on their than you think. You just have to listen to some of the acts. I think it is a very diverse lineup. Also, white boy hip hop?
I mean I did my usual spotify run through what did I miss world music wise?
I just don't get the jam band whining. I guess I get it if you've gone to Roo since the very beginning and seen it move away from it's "roots", but seriously...and I say this with utmost respect for differing musical tastes...get over it. If you can't go to a festival with 150 acts and find enough to more than satisfy the price of a $250 ticket, then I feel sorry for you. I would have like more EDM more in-line with my tastes...but you know what? There are so many damn quality acts on this lineup that I can't even complain. I will always remember walking past Loretta Lynn's tent to go see Eminem...THAT is Bonnaroo. It might not have been Bonnaroo in 2002, but it's Bonnaroo now, and I think it's all the better for it.
The diverse aspect of the Bonnaroo lineup is such a statement of the Bonnaroo mindset, in my mind. We all come together to a farm with different backgrounds, races, cultures, norms, and ideals...and we all mesh together and love one another. The diverse musical selection of Roo I think is reflective of that...and that's not a coincidence. Having a primarily jam-oriented festival singles out a certain crowd, when we should be trying to make everyone happy...the more inclusive, the better. So in that vein...you're not going to get everything you want, but there's something for everyone, and we can all appreciate each other's music just as we can all appreciate each other as individuals.
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So this is a very valid point. And I agree with a lot of it. But What you are missing as a person who wasn't around for the early years of Roo is what Roo originally was in the early years, and this came out of the jamband heavy lineup. Early on there were these massive collaborations between artists. You'd see moe. bring out a plethora of artists, or Warren Haynes playing all over the festival, or Widespread bringing out everyone from Steve Winwood to Herbie Hacock, Bob Weir and Robert Randolph. Galactic collaborating with any number of artists from rappers to funkers. Phil Lesh Came out with the Duo/Mike/Trey. More recently, Phish did this both times with Kenny Rogers and Bruce Springsteen. Tool also did it with Tom Morello, and MMJ has done it with Kirk Hammet.
As the festival has moved away from jambands, the collaborations have severely dropped off. Nowadays you get a lot of bands playing 60-75 minute sets in their own bubble. There is hardly any cross-collaboration.
Hate on jambands all you want. That's fine. I understand the need for Bonnaroo to diversify, to appeal to the college age kids who are currently more heavily into indie rock than jamrock. I understand that some people who love indie rock will always hate jamrock (personally I love both). Still, what has been lost on all of those who didn't go to the first few Roos and don't care about the jambands is the profound sense of "we're all in this together" that extended from the crowd to the stage. Jambands, for all their wankery, are humble enough to share the stage time and time again with any number of musicians to collaborate and make their Bonnaroo performance a wholly unique experience.
These days, For all intents and purposes, collaborations have been reduced to the Superjam. Imo, this is why we have seen more than one superjam in the 2 of the last 3 bonnaroo lineups. They are trying hard to keep collaborations on the bill.
There is something to be said for this festivals roots. It's uniqueness is inherent not just to a jamband heavy lineup, but to the idea that musicians can share the stage and play together at this festival, and for anyone who has been around enough to pay attention, it's been slowly eroding in favor of the cash-cow of festival attendance numbers.
Dive more into the lineup. There is a good bit of world music. There is more on their than you think. You just have to listen to some of the acts. I think it is a very diverse lineup. Also, white boy hip hop?
I mean I did my usual spotify run through what did I miss world music wise?
John McLaughlin, Amadou and Marium, Fatoumata Diawara, and Bombino
Post by Auston City Limits on Feb 20, 2013 10:48:30 GMT -5
Last years hip hop was way more "white boy hip hop" than this year. From a literal perspective macklemore and mac miller cancel each other out, but if you are talking about "I complain about feelings, reference nerd/pop culture, sample indie rock and don't have as many black fans as white fans" white boy hip hop, then last year with childish gambino, das racist, and black star would certainly fit that criteria better than wu-tang, nas, kendrick or a$ap. I think you're forgetting its fucking nas.