All we have to believe with is our senses, the tools we use to perceive the world: our sight, our touch, our memory. If they lie to us, then nothing can be trusted. And even if we do not believe, then still we cannot travel in any other way than the road our senses show us; and we must walk that road to the end.
Fact: if I were Mafia along with Bek, I guarantee you that NBF would have died immediately after Bek. SFA would have gotten the order to whack NBF before Day Three even closed and been able to post them together. Not that any of you fools believe me, but it's the goddamn truth.
(Edited to properly violate the Ten Commandments.)
^ that's certainly no guarantee. Many avenues the mafia can go with this whack...
It is both a guarantee and a promise. If I were Mafia, the NBF whack would have been reported prior to the end of Day Three. I'd bet you a beer over the timing of my submission, had I actually made it.
Post by abrakapokus on Jan 9, 2013 17:14:49 GMT -5
I actually thought it would be Jimmy, Bacon, and Kiko. I've been checking back to see who the final 3 would be all day. On page 18, I went through several posts looking at the possibility of NBF being fake inspector. Her putting in the cover for you also made me look at Jimmy's connections related to all the whacks and vote offs. After much reading, I felt fairly certain then that NBF was telling the truth so I have to go with Bacon as the remaining mafia member.
And Bacon, I understand you may want to pressure me by putting me in the runoff since I've been so vocal. Fine. But I still think Mike D should be in the runoff.
If someone can put a vote on Mike D (since Bacon just saved him from the runoff after an initial distancing tactic?) then I have no problem being in the initial runoff.
I'm the very next person after you to post and put Mike back in the run off. I was already suspicious of MikeD because he was being so quiet. EXACTLY like he did the last game. I've been maifa with MikeD and he was NOT quiet, go ahead look it up. What more could I base my vote off of?
LLL was whacked, wonder why? It certainly wasn't because of her vote for me. She even said she was using it as a place holder. Don't you think I would have freaked out defending myself or at least my mafia buddies would have come to the rescue?
By my count Bek has 3 votes, NBF 2 votes. Bek I suggest you help me put kiko in a run-off
Jimmy you come off of Eap, I stay on, it doesn't seem to be going anywhere, offer to put either Bacon (mafia) or NBF (who i thought might be mafia) in, she never replies and then YOU switch back to eap. I didn't follow your vote. Bacon then lines his vote back up with Mr F
Let me walk everyone through my thoughts this round. When I started the round I voted for Bek since she was the last person LLL voted for before death. As I started reading more I started becoming a little less suspicious of Bek and my vote for kiko was more about him being the most annoying player than being particularly suspicious. I often do that, it serves as a good place holder and often will shut people up a bit.
Then the run-off came and it was obvious to me I couldn't let EAP have the final say. I fully intended to change to Bek but I wanted to test a little something. Vote for NBF and see what happens. I did and exactly that and bam suddenly Bek and Eap have a ton of votes and I'm the only one on NBF. What does it mean? Well I am more suspicious of NBF than anyone else at this point.
So who to I vote for? I have been suspicious of Bek all game but she has acted clean the whole time. EAP is normally more vocal but it is the holidays and she has been out and about. Neither has really done much to make me want to off them at this point so I have to go with the person acting most out of the ordinary.
The reason I voted for EAP was because she had voted for me. Starting a fresh round with no possibilities it only made sense for me to return her vote. She had also been very quiet only making remarks about hair pins or whatever. Not adding anything to the game. It didn't seem like my vote was going anywhere and I offered for us to switch off each other, she never talked to me or acknowledged what I read. If I had a hard on, like you did, for EAP to die, I wouldn't have offered to do that.
Post by abrakapokus on Jan 10, 2013 17:47:04 GMT -5
Alright so why was Hakuna whacked? Well he mentions several people, myself included. I responded to him and told him my reasons and backs off and he pretty much goes hard on BEK/MrF. He pulls off of MrF quite a bit but goes after Bek
Alright fair enough, I'lll stack and see if this shakes things up at all. Hakuna >> Bek
I'm sure bringing up both Bek and MrF's name and going hard after Bek is what did him in.
I thought I was breaking these posts up into two equal ones so it wouldn't be hard on the eyes to read. I see after page 17 though NBF comes out and it's been pretty easy from there on out. I don't know why I was left to live to go up against Bacon? I'd say, though it's not nice to myself, that mafia thinks I'm an easier player to outsmart when going head to head against Bacon. Bacon voted for nearly all the same players as Mr F did, even more than anyone else. NBF even pointed to thoughts that Bacon was probably the 3rd
So it's not a coincidence that Kdogg and Bek did not have a vote on you at any point in the entire game, accused you of nothing ever, and you 3 happened to vote the same way every round before NBF came out as inspector? ALL of that is not a coincidence?
You think we would be so dumb as to never cast suspicion at each other plus we would stack votes? Or would mafia do what Bacon has done, he's talked about wanting them in the run off and then pulled back at the last second every time. I talked the entire about hating ppl just running their mouths in the thread, who do you think I was talking about? I had a feeling MrF was mafia so I didn't want to stick my neck and name out there and get killed off. Bek did come as a total surprise though.
Since the game is (technically?) over, can I discuss the changes I mentioned earlier?
1. The time-out rules. I think this needs to be changed. I'm not comfortable with a rule which leaves open the possibility of ending a round with an even number of players. Rather than taking a "two strikes & you're out" approach, I think it might be more appropriate that instead... the Referee would be mandated to place votes against the offending player in the following vote. Preferably two votes, to maintain an odd number of votes and prevent a tie. If it occurs in the final round, the offending player's team flat-out loses.
2. Searchability In the interest of players trying to scan the thread, I think it might be beneficial for official game functions (tallies, kills/whacks, Day/Night beginnings & ends) to be formatted with the use of a #HashTag. For use only by the Referee? I think it's much easier to skim/search for an official format, say #VoteTally, than for an individual word in that term. The words themselves pop up in various other posts in the thread not posted by the Referee.
Just a couple thoughts there. Feedback on these, or giving other suggestions, would be appreciated.