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Post by abrakapokus on Jan 4, 2013 14:25:34 GMT -5
I can tell you I'm not mafia and if I were, no way would I group myself together with the other two by voting the same way. I based my decision on both MikeD and Eap totally off of how I have seen them play in other games. Mike was quiet last round and boom, mafia. When eap was a townie you couldn't get her to shut up. I have not played with several of these players, however, so here is where it gets a little harder for me. I'm tired of seeing Mr F junking up the game with all this BS he posts so.
Here we are again with ANOTHER set up by the mafia.
You know what I think? I think NBF is the last remaining mafia member and she is acting desperately in an effort to run off the two biggest threats she knows - kdogg and myself.
Now, I will be the first to admit that kdogg has been all over the place this game BUT I also know that this is pretty typical behavior when he is a townie. I cannot confirm or deny his innocence but in my opinion he does not seem particularly guilty, especially considering the source. At least not enough for me to vote for him at this point. I can, however, assure you that I am not working with him or anyone else for that matter.
Jimmy was pretty vocal about his suspicions of me on day one bc he had never played with me and NBF said she guess him one night one and stated he is innocent but why would she guess him? What made him so suspicious? And, if she would have believed him to be mafia enough to guess him would she really think that we would draw so much attention to ourselves one THE FIRST DAY? I know some of you hate what I'm about to say but.... WOULD MAFIA DO THAT? Looks to me like she is just trying to win jimmy over because he is the only person, the entire game that I have pegged to be innocent due to his early strategy (or lack thereof - no offense) and inexperience so she believes he is more likely to side with me over her bs. Just looks like an attempt to build a case to me but just more baloney...
Also, and here is a big one.... until this post, my lost login date was 1/1 which means I wasn't around for any of the discussions that mafia would be having in regards to offing hakuna. If I were mafia, don't you think I would be more involved with the other mafia members?? Anyone here who DOES know me probably realizes that there is no way in Hades that I would let the other mafia members pick who to whack without me.
When I saw the thread, I wasn't logged in and I thought to take a screenshot so you could see my last login against today's date. Sorry boys, this biznatch ain't mafia.
My mafia guesses: EAP Mike D NBF
Inspector guess: Baon or Hakuna
Just think about that for a moment... let it all sink in.
First, when have the townies ever managed to off two mafia in the first two days of play?
Second, kdogg has not seemed innocent. He has done nothing but misdirect and spew bullsh!t this whole game.
Third, my last log in date was August 24, 2010. I guess I haven't been around in awhile, huh? Not to mention that you and kdogg are Facebook friends, and I'm about 99% sure you have each other's phone numbers. But we should all believe that the only way you could have communicated with your fellow mafia is by being logged in on here?
Post by ☮ superbek ☮ on Jan 4, 2013 14:28:58 GMT -5
Okay, good point... I just listed him bc I doubt it would be LLL bc she was inspector last game and I was going off people who were already out of the game. And why couldn't bacon be the inspector?
You still can't account for the fact that I haven't logged in since Tuesday and the whack was made last night. Do the facts not mean anything to you? Everything I laid out and you jump on the fact that I did not omit hakuna as the inspector as dis-crediting me? I guess some people just believe what they want to believe.
On a completely unrelated side note, I just realized you're close to me... what part of town you in?
Post by kikosanchez on Jan 4, 2013 14:29:21 GMT -5
Why vote NBF or KDogg right now? Both sides seem to agree Bek is mafia. What mafia team would you (Abra) and you (Bek) propose that doesn't include Bek?
Post by abrakapokus on Jan 4, 2013 15:49:40 GMT -5
Here are my hour and 15 minutes of thoughts/research etc.
NBF/Jimmy if nbf is fake and she's throwing jimmy a cover to finish out the game. I tried to link either Eap or Mike to either of these and it doesn't make sense with voting patterns. Eap was pressing hard for Jimmy the first round and with the run off so close she wouldn't do that if he was at risk and they were both Mafia. Jimmy then helped vote of MikeD so that wouldn't put them in a group together. That would leave Kiko/Bacon/Myself to be in a group with NBF/Jimmy as the third mafia. Kiko has been popping on my radar early as inspector then later it was Bacon. I figured bac was playing low to keep mafia from whacking him and getting his guesses in. It did occur to me last night that it might be NFB + MrF + ? Now hear me out. NBF and MrF are slinging thoughts back and forth but never really putting each other in real danger. I could see mafia wanting to finish out the game and saying, "Look I'll say I'm inspector, you are mafia and then BEK (chosen townie) is mafia too." I'll push for Bek to be voted off first and you second. Once bek is dead, we will whack and townie and the next run off never happens. Mafia wins. The only issue with this is NBF is basically saying "Yo, townies here are the mafia, pick one" and she's not pushing for either of them in particular. So that isn't flying with me. I think if NBF is inspector she has done a fine job of backing off when she needs to to avoid mafia whacking her which is why she might have pressed MrF to see who defended him but didn't go in for the kill until she knew for sure.
Kiko you certainly aren't playing like you did last round as mafia (where we got mafia 1, 2, and 3 btw in response to someone's earlier "When have townies ever gotten mafia 1 & 2?"
Jimmy has bounced around his guesses, putting pressure on several people. I don't know if this is his typical MO. His votes have been instrumental in voting off both Eap and MikeD but hell mine have too and I know I'm not mafia. Also why would NBF throw him a free pass? So if I believe NBF right now I have to think perhaps Jimmy is innocent.
Bacon-Recently I thought bacon was inspector so I failed to take a whole lot of notice of his voting patterns. He mentioned suspicions of both MrF and Bek and even throws a vote onto Bek but then comes off of it voting Jimmy and then Eap in the two rounds. That might be a way to distance himself from MrF and Bek but still never put them in real danger. LLL also said she wanted bacon in a run off so that might have been a reason to whack her.
We also have to consider that either MikeD or Eap were mafia while I seriously doubt that they both were. We should consider that either of the whacks could have been setups if they didn't appear to be inspector. Oy, my head hurts. I've been going over this for a hour now and I'm tired. To be totally honest... I haven't looked at jack MrF has said nearly this entire game. All the quoting and rambling throws me off so keep that in mind with whatever I say. I could be missing key points of info, I just don't have the time to search for it in those posts.
Kiko you certainly aren't playing like you did last round as mafia (where we got mafia 1, 2, and 3 btw in response to someone's earlier "When have townies ever gotten mafia 1 & 2?"
That was me. I haven't followed a game in awhile, so I didn't realize that. But even still, it usually doesn't happen.
I'm fine with killing off either kdogg or bek this round. I understand the reasoning that it looks like bek is guilty either way, so why not go for her first, but I can see voting for kdogg because he writes 3000 word posts that junk up the game.
Hakuna saw... 1. ..."Mafia stacking going on Mike D." That would include Bek, leading to a consistent theme of Hakuna suspecting her. 2. ..."NBF voting for Bek as a distancing move." 3. ...Mafia using Jimmy as an easy target.
When this was posted, Bek was actually yet to vote. You, Abra, and Jimmy were on Mike at the time. All 4 of you also ended up on EAP. This, and many other things from re-reading the game twice, leads me to believe in either a Kdogg, Bek, and Abra mafia team or Bek, NBF, and Jimmy team. At this point, Bacon is the only person I'm really feeling good about.
kiko, why are you so comfortable with bacon? He is actually the top of my list for the third mafia at this point (assuming the third mafia member is still alive).
Everyone involved in this mess seems to agree on Bek as Mafia, but I'm leading in the votes? Can someone explain to me how that works?
Also, can we completely rule out the possibility that Mike D was Inspector? Bek cast the vote to kill him while Kiko, for whom Mike D had voted, abstained. Keep in mind that an NBF/Bek/Kiko combination would have assumed that only Bek was in Inspector danger after Day One. NBF had zero Day One votes, Kiko's lone voter was eliminated... that would explain why Bek has been the focus of the whacks thus far. Not to mention why the Kiko-NBF two-way runoff we had going crumbled.
Not sold on Kiko as the third. Mike D's other vote was for Jimmy. Jimmy was about the last player here willing to concede that Bek might be guilty. Even now, he's still unwilling to concede that with a vote for Bek. Curious...
As for my vote, I'm torn. I think there's too much smoke around Bek for there not to be fire, but I'm absolutely certain NBF is wrong here.
I'm being set up here. Everyone else who voted Bek in Day One has been eliminated. I'm just the last Day One Bek voter still alive precisely because I'm least likely among them to be Inspector. Hell, both LLL & Hakuna said they leaned towards my innocence... and they both got whacked.
Some things I want those of you who feel I'm guilty to explain: 1. Back on the 26th, when it was heading to an NBF-Kiko runoff, I nulled my vote. I could have easily kept it, which would have made for an NBF-Kiko runoff. If I'm Mafia with Bek, why would I have turned down that opportunity, to have three Mafia voting in a two-way runoff involving a potential Inspector who had two of our names? I could have killed NBF in a vote, but instead I saved her. Why would alleged Mafia me do such a thing? 2. Between NBF & myself, which of us has had more players vote for them that later died by Mafia whacks?
Post by NothingButFlowers on Jan 4, 2013 17:10:35 GMT -5
Do you not think that if Mike D was inspector, he would have at least hinted as much when he was in very real danger of getting killed off?
I honestly don't understand your question 1. You keep saying it was heading for a runoff between me and kiko, but at that point, we only had two votes each, and there were still 9 players playing, so I don't think your vote was quite as game changing as you seem to think it was. Also, you nulled your vote, making it so that only kiko had 2 votes at the time and everyone else with a vote just had 1. Then, I put superbek in the runoff (because nobody seemed inclined to add a vote on you). Then, Jimmy put eap in the runoff. And then, you put your vote back on me to put me back into the runoff. So, again, I'm not really sure what your point is here.
One player voted for me who died by mafia whack. That's not really damning evidence. Not to mention that he changed his final vote from me to bek.
kiko, why are you so comfortable with bacon? He is actually the top of my list for the third mafia at this point (assuming the third mafia member is still alive).
B/c when I re-read the game from the perspective of Kdogg & Bek as mafia, he seemed least guilty. Kdogg called for an EAP-Bacon-Bek runoff and said LLL may have died b/c of her suspicion for EAP/Bacon combo. Mafia will often call for another mafia to be in a runoff, but 2 out of 3? Seems unlikely.
Also, Abra seemed more guilty, playing 180 degrees differently than last game. Much less questioning and more following KDogg/Jimmy's votes. Lastly, LLL suspected a bek, kdogg, and abra mafia team.
Maybe she was just misled twice, but I really don't think EAP or Mike were mafia and considering Abra, Bek, Jimmy, Kdogg voted for both of them, I think there's a good chance at least 2 of them are mafia. This is again why I think we should simply kill Bek this round and then go from there. She seems to be the only person both sides both claim as mafia (both NBF and Hakuna, the 2 most likely inspectors are both in agreement).
