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First, Jimmyroo, you asked a ref question. Refs can essentially do what they want when assigning roles and sending PMs. I know some hand pick roles, while others, including myself try to make it as random as possible. You are constrained by a 15 second per PM limit, but generally all the roles go out and the thread gets posted. Now, I know when I got my PM, the thread was not up. I had to check back for about 15-20 minutes (maybe more) before the thread went up. You posted right after me. I have email PM alerts on though, so it flashes on my cell when I get a PM, so I am not going to read too much into this.
What I did find odd was that when you were discussing your vote changes Jimmyroo, you neglected to mention moving to me and trying to swing votes my way. Any particular reason why?
LLL, first off, congrats. Can I ask why the belligerence though? I mean, I am not convinced you are mafia, since when I was mafia, I brought this side out of you were a townie, but you are usually fairly nice and personable.
Second, you mentioned I am not all over the place like I usually am, but if you look back, I am only all over the place in Day 1. After that, I settle in and look at what we have from a pattern standpoint. I am treating this as a Day 3. I proposed the inspector come out and we could get a more knowledgeable runoff, but no one was having it.
What I did find odd was that when you were discussing your vote changes Jimmyroo, you neglected to mention moving to me and trying to swing votes my way. Any particular reason why?
No one asked me about it so I didn't say anything. I was addressing LLL's accusation about a connection with Roonectar, so I guess voting for your temporarily didn't cross my mind (I was typing off the top of my head).
I initially switched my vote to you because, like I said, I felt your in-depth understanding of the mafia perspective in this smaller game was strange. Maybe I'm just a noob but I didn't get all of the intricacies you pointed out, probably because I'm a townie and I haven't sat down and calculated how many people mafia need to kill before they will win.
So, after Roonectar essentially apologized for stacking me and switched his vote...I decided I didn't need to vote him. (Again, I'm a townie so if he was willing to take his vote off a polarizing player like me, i'm less concerned about him being mafia). And at the time, I suppose you were most suspicious to me.
Of course, its not like your post was THAT suspicious...it was only one post...and so after 2-3 days of LLL being on inforoo and not posting in here, despite knowing the game is going on, I felt like I should switch to her.
Now that I read over it, I guess Roonectar should still be the most suspicious to me. He is relatively new to the game, tried to stack me (an easy target), but backed off once Quacker got involved. Then he waited till the very end to vote for LLL, keeping quiet and leaving himself out of the fray even though he is in the runoff. I get the feeling that LLL's frustration is similar to mine. We are townies and its annoying being in the runoff this early because we know the game will end pretty quickly if 2 townies die right off the bat. That's why I'm being more belligerent this round (as opposed to the prior 2 games where I toned it down)...and clearly LL is being belligerent as well.
I think with this abbreviated game that it might be good for the inspector to come out right away but it's def going to cause a sh!tstorm of debate as to whether it's fake or real. Getting one name right off the bat would be great but if it's a fake inspector post then we're probably screwed.
I didn't stack on you jimmy, you voted for me so I voted for you. I switched once there were two on you so early since kiko wasn't going to because he has that nonsense vote. I said repeatedly I was waiting to hear from LLL. She voted for me out of nowhere. I'd do the same thing if I were her I was just mafia with her, if anyone will be able to tell she's mafia it's me and I'm quite sure she is. She's even stealing the tactic I used to gain trust by saying she's fine being in a runoff.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Nov 13, 2012 13:35:22 GMT -5
I'll look back over the game more before 7 and after a nap. Wasn't happy at all coming home from a nice weekend to see that an innocent blunder had been used against me. Especially when people are so belittling about it "I seemed to find it just fine". lBecause when you are not Mafia, it means that people must think that you are stupid. Pretty f'ed up when it was the ref who had to spur me into the game. You would think if I were Mafia my partner may have been a little pissed at me for screwing up so royally knowing it would put suspicion on me immediately.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Nov 13, 2012 15:11:21 GMT -5
Ahahahha! So why didn't they PM me instead of the Ref having to do it? You are either the Townie who will lead us to our demise this game or the hard line Mafia in your pairing.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Nov 13, 2012 15:17:21 GMT -5
When I'm on a Mafia team we have a strategy in place right away. Why wouldn't I have been in contact with my partner suddenly this game. That doesn't even make sense
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Nov 13, 2012 15:22:50 GMT -5
I'm done going down your Mafia rabbit hole. This feels eerily similar to when Viking was Mafia and did this to me because he knew how to push my buttons. You are doing the exact same thing.
Obviously extending into another runoff only benefits the town. I was hoping to see if anyone voting for Roonectar would switch their vote for this added benefit instead of letting me simply die. But I guess Hakuna does care much for that...
I already explained my current analysis and reasons for keeping my vote on you. After posting that, you and LLL had a page or more of nonsense bullsh*t back and forth. So, there's really nothing to add at this point. I still find it weird how much emphasis you're putting on LLL not being around when it is obviously a horrible mafia tactic to be so blatantly quiet in a 7 person game.
I don't like that response Kiko. We have played every single game that each of us has played together. And we have both been townies in all of those games. We always had that sort of bond. And for some reason now you want to wack me, and you are being very reserved/quiet when you normally go apresh*t like I normally go apesh*t.
I think with the short game the mafia are trying to shake it up with completely unconventional mafia play. There isn't as much time to convince and manipulate, there is one frantic mafia who I think is already in the runoff and one who is keeping quiet. There are only two we should be able to flush them out
I think with the short game the mafia are trying to shake it up with completely unconventional mafia play. There isn't as much time to convince and manipulate, there is one frantic mafia who I think is already in the runoff and one who is keeping quiet. There are only two we should be able to flush them out
Blowing up your spot. If I was mafia I'd hate it to. I figured you out last game but this time I'm townie so I am obviously going to voice my concerns
What do you mean You figured me out last game?! We were Mafia together! There was no figuring out. We were working together! You act like no one here played that game with us and you can just make shiz up! You act like no one has ever played Mafia before and doesn't realize that TOWNIES DON'T ACT LIKE YOU ARE! Inspectors don't act like you are! Only MAFIA pulls this shiz of riding another players ass like it is their job to set them up!
If you are a townie, you are Quackin us up royally. But I doubt that. Mafia love to create big dust storm diversions like this, latching on to one player they know they can piss off because they are the only ones who know who has what role. We townies don't know shiz from Cheyenne. That is why we don't pull this kind of crap you are and ride another players ass because if we are wrong, we've just screwed over the whole team! Jesus. Get a grip man.
We need to be looking at the VOTING. There are already possible patterns being set up by saves and vote changes and disassociations. If you truly are a townie stop quacking us up and start looking at the facts!
