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Post by SupeЯfuЯЯyanimal on Jun 7, 2017 0:21:57 GMT -5
This might come as a surprise but I'd rather be set on fire than go to a high school reunion. I rarely ever see anyone I went to school with and when I do I try to avoid eye contact.
Holy crap I just realized my hs 20 yr reunion is next year. I probably go, I haven't been to any, but damn. I'm old.
I haven't been to any either. I remember I didn't go to my five year reunion because five year reunions are stupid, also I'm pretty sure I was in treatment or fresh out of treatment. Also I live in my hometown and see people I went to school with regularly. It's good to see them, no bad memories, I just don't particularly want to go to a big room and eat bad food with them while some DJ plays all the R&B hits of the mid to late 90s.
twenty is just a few years away. maybe i'll go to that one. i'm married now so i'll have my wingwoman.
I don't live far from where I went to school, but I never see anyone. We never do anything where we live because there's nothing to do, so there are not really any events to run into people at. I did for some reason get curious about what everyone is into now and added a bunchof them on Facebook and few years ago. I learned that I really don't care though and have slowly weeded out most of them. I think it would be weird to see everyone together for one night 20 years later.
After the election, a friend of mine posted angry comments in the reunion planning group on Facebook, explaining that there was no way in hell she would go to a reunion because she was treated badly in school and she was sure the reunion would be full of "racist motherfuckers" who voted for Trump. Although a couple of people said they understood, there were plenty who argued back with her. ("I'm not a racist. My wife is Mexican.") I vocally agreed with her and argued with a couple of people that voting for Trump was indeed racist. Ultimately, the whole conversation got deleted and I left the group.
I got the e-vite for the reunion today. I declined.
Leading up to the election is when I really started cutting those people from Facebook. I am definitely the minority here, pretty much everyone here is Republican. It was the first time I'd ever really got into arguments about it, because I know I'm the minority so I just keep quiet about it. There's a weird thing that happens with people here. When they're younger they're not that far to the right or into politics at all. Also everyone becomes more religious and uses that as their base for everything. They grow up going to church but they get way more conservative and righteous when they get older. It's weird.
After the election, a friend of mine posted angry comments in the reunion planning group on Facebook, explaining that there was no way in hell she would go to a reunion because she was treated badly in school and she was sure the reunion would be full of "racist motherfuckers" who voted for Trump. Although a couple of people said they understood, there were plenty who argued back with her. ("I'm not a racist. My wife is Mexican.") I vocally agreed with her and argued with a couple of people that voting for Trump was indeed racist. Ultimately, the whole conversation got deleted and I left the group.
I got the e-vite for the reunion today. I declined.
Leading up to the election is when I really started cutting those people from Facebook. I am definitely the minority here, pretty much everyone here is Republican. It was the first time I'd ever really got into arguments about it, because I know I'm the minority so I just keep quiet about it. There's a weird thing that happens with people here. When they're younger they're not that far to the right or into politics at all. Also everyone becomes more religious and uses that as their base for everything. They grow up going to church but they get way more conservative and righteous when they get older. It's weird.
People get scared by their own mortality and dive into the Bible to an unhealthy level. Happened to my dad, he became such a born again that he was convinced our entire family is going to hell. Needless to say, we rarely talk these days.
I never know whether to keep quiet or if keeping quiet is enabling this level of thinking. I tend to just try to as politely as possible share why I disagree. I find that a lot of people really want to be good to others, but get so caught up in how it affects them, personally.
After the election, a friend of mine posted angry comments in the reunion planning group on Facebook, explaining that there was no way in hell she would go to a reunion because she was treated badly in school and she was sure the reunion would be full of "racist motherfuckers" who voted for Trump. Although a couple of people said they understood, there were plenty who argued back with her. ("I'm not a racist. My wife is Mexican.") I vocally agreed with her and argued with a couple of people that voting for Trump was indeed racist. Ultimately, the whole conversation got deleted and I left the group.
I got the e-vite for the reunion today. I declined.
Leading up to the election is when I really started cutting those people from Facebook. I am definitely the minority here, pretty much everyone here is Republican. It was the first time I'd ever really got into arguments about it, because I know I'm the minority so I just keep quiet about it. There's a weird thing that happens with people here. When they're younger they're not that far to the right or into politics at all. Also everyone becomes more religious and uses that as their base for everything. They grow up going to church but they get way more conservative and righteous when they get older. It's weird.
Yeah, I wasn't even Facebook friends with most of the people who were arguing against her (one of them was one of like 5 people I've actually unfriended on there because she wouldn't shut up about how the world was going to end if Obama got reelected in 2012), but it kind of broke my heart when the husband of one of my actual best friends growing up chimed in. I mean, I knew that they were both very religious people, but I guess I was still naïve enough to believe that a truly religious person would be able to see that Trump was the antithesis of everything they supposedly believed. (He didn't outright say he voted for Trump, but it was the impression I got, and he was certainly chiming in on behalf of the people who did.)
I was super religious when I was a teenager, became agnostic in college, and have inched closer to atheism since then. But at the same time, as I get older, I'm becoming more interested in ways to feel connected to the universe because I guess I'm looking for some sort of purpose or something. The effect of the way I'm going about it is different because I am trying to work towards being less conservative (not that I was all that conservative to start with, but I think maybe I mean less conventional or less driven to decide how to live based on "normal" standards) and more open/compassionate/actually connected with people instead of hiding in my bubble. But I wonder if the driving forces aren't the same ones that cause other people to get more into church and consequently become more conservative.
Leading up to the election is when I really started cutting those people from Facebook. I am definitely the minority here, pretty much everyone here is Republican. It was the first time I'd ever really got into arguments about it, because I know I'm the minority so I just keep quiet about it. There's a weird thing that happens with people here. When they're younger they're not that far to the right or into politics at all. Also everyone becomes more religious and uses that as their base for everything. They grow up going to church but they get way more conservative and righteous when they get older. It's weird.
Yeah, I wasn't even Facebook friends with most of the people who were arguing against her (one of them was one of like 5 people I've actually unfriended on there because she wouldn't shut up about how the world was going to end if Obama got reelected in 2012), but it kind of broke my heart when the husband of one of my actual best friends growing up chimed in. I mean, I knew that they were both very religious people, but I guess I was still naïve enough to believe that a truly religious person would be able to see that Trump was the antithesis of everything they supposedly believed. (He didn't outright say he voted for Trump, but it was the impression I got, and he was certainly chiming in on behalf of the people who did.)
I was super religious when I was a teenager, became agnostic in college, and have inched closer to atheism since then. But at the same time, as I get older, I'm becoming more interested in ways to feel connected to the universe because I guess I'm looking for some sort of purpose or something. The effect of the way I'm going about it is different because I am trying to work towards being less conservative (not that I was all that conservative to start with, but I think maybe I mean less conventional or less driven to decide how to live based on "normal" standards) and more open/compassionate/actually connected with people instead of hiding in my bubble. But I wonder if the driving forces aren't the same ones that cause other people to get more into church and consequently become more conservative.
Maybe that has something to do with it. A lot of the people here are just doing what their parents did I guess. So I'm not sure what you're feeling has anything to do with it. I don't have anything against christianity, we go to church, but man they have some ignorant beliefs. And to base an election on those beliefs. It's just crazy.
Post by heyyitskait on Jun 7, 2017 12:48:21 GMT -5
I'm doing laundry at my parents today. It never ceases to amaze me that I can hear my dad's mustang approaching from what might be an actual mile away. The neighbors must hate him.
Yeah, I wasn't even Facebook friends with most of the people who were arguing against her (one of them was one of like 5 people I've actually unfriended on there because she wouldn't shut up about how the world was going to end if Obama got reelected in 2012), but it kind of broke my heart when the husband of one of my actual best friends growing up chimed in. I mean, I knew that they were both very religious people, but I guess I was still naïve enough to believe that a truly religious person would be able to see that Trump was the antithesis of everything they supposedly believed. (He didn't outright say he voted for Trump, but it was the impression I got, and he was certainly chiming in on behalf of the people who did.)
I was super religious when I was a teenager, became agnostic in college, and have inched closer to atheism since then. But at the same time, as I get older, I'm becoming more interested in ways to feel connected to the universe because I guess I'm looking for some sort of purpose or something. The effect of the way I'm going about it is different because I am trying to work towards being less conservative (not that I was all that conservative to start with, but I think maybe I mean less conventional or less driven to decide how to live based on "normal" standards) and more open/compassionate/actually connected with people instead of hiding in my bubble. But I wonder if the driving forces aren't the same ones that cause other people to get more into church and consequently become more conservative.
Maybe that has something to do with it. A lot of the people here are just doing what their parents did I guess. So I'm not sure what you're feeling has anything to do with it. I don't have anything against christianity, we go to church, but man they have some ignorant beliefs. And to base an election on those beliefs. It's just crazy.
Definitely - I've got no problem with Christianity, and I've known (still know) Christians who really live with the goals of spreading love and compassion, and that's amazing. It's just unfortunate that there are others who just use their religion to push their own judgmental agendas.
I was super religious when I was a teenager, became agnostic in college, and have inched closer to atheism since then. But at the same time, as I get older, I'm becoming more interested in ways to feel connected to the universe because I guess I'm looking for some sort of purpose or something. The effect of the way I'm going about it is different because I am trying to work towards being less conservative (not that I was all that conservative to start with, but I think maybe I mean less conventional or less driven to decide how to live based on "normal" standards) and more open/compassionate/actually connected with people instead of hiding in my bubble. But I wonder if the driving forces aren't the same ones that cause other people to get more into church and consequently become more conservative.
I absolutely think those same driving forces (search for meaning, search for connection to others, a desire to be of service to the world and your fellow people) are what drive many people to church. However, not everybody can swallow dogma (like me), and without another route to some type of spiritual fulfillment many choose nihilism/chaos. But there is a third path, and that is secular spirituality, which for me involves meditation and mindfulness, so I can better understand my brain and clear out all the bullshit, so I can be available to be of service to those around me.
Sam Harris has a great book on secular spirituality called "Waking Up". His approach to meditation and mindfulness is the purest and least affected by dogma that I've found. Highly recommended.
I was super religious when I was a teenager, became agnostic in college, and have inched closer to atheism since then. But at the same time, as I get older, I'm becoming more interested in ways to feel connected to the universe because I guess I'm looking for some sort of purpose or something. The effect of the way I'm going about it is different because I am trying to work towards being less conservative (not that I was all that conservative to start with, but I think maybe I mean less conventional or less driven to decide how to live based on "normal" standards) and more open/compassionate/actually connected with people instead of hiding in my bubble. But I wonder if the driving forces aren't the same ones that cause other people to get more into church and consequently become more conservative.
I absolutely think those same driving forces (search for meaning, search for connection to others, a desire to be of service to the world and your fellow people) are what drive many people to church. However, not everybody can swallow dogma (like me), and without another route to some type of spiritual fulfillment many choose nihilism/chaos. But there is a third path, and that is secular spirituality, which for me involves meditation and mindfulness, so I can better understand my brain and clear out all the bullshit, so I can be available to be of service to those around me.
Sam Harris has a great book on secular spirituality called "Waking Up". His approach to meditation and mindfulness is the purest and least affected by dogma that I've found. Highly recommended.
Thanks! I never seem to find time to read anymore, but I listen to a lot of audiobooks. I'm almost through with The Book of Joy right now, and I will listen to Waking Up next!
I absolutely think those same driving forces (search for meaning, search for connection to others, a desire to be of service to the world and your fellow people) are what drive many people to church. However, not everybody can swallow dogma (like me), and without another route to some type of spiritual fulfillment many choose nihilism/chaos. But there is a third path, and that is secular spirituality, which for me involves meditation and mindfulness, so I can better understand my brain and clear out all the bullshit, so I can be available to be of service to those around me.
Sam Harris has a great book on secular spirituality called "Waking Up". His approach to meditation and mindfulness is the purest and least affected by dogma that I've found. Highly recommended.
Thanks! I never seem to find time to read anymore, but I listen to a lot of audiobooks. I'm almost through with The Book of Joy right now, and I will listen to Waking Up next!
I used to go be an atheist, but than I realize I have no proof their isnt anything just as religious folks have no proof their is something. I subscribe to agnostic now, as in, there could be "a god(s)" that pushed the proverbial button to start everything in motion. But for people to think theyre so important in the vast universe that a god(s) are watching their every move and thought is ludicrous. Even moreso that people today are greedy, cheating, divorcing, and practicing heresy at all time highs and expecting a spot in heaven still because they think they just deserve it for some reason.
I absolutely think those same driving forces (search for meaning, search for connection to others, a desire to be of service to the world and your fellow people) are what drive many people to church. However, not everybody can swallow dogma (like me), and without another route to some type of spiritual fulfillment many choose nihilism/chaos. But there is a third path, and that is secular spirituality, which for me involves meditation and mindfulness, so I can better understand my brain and clear out all the bullshit, so I can be available to be of service to those around me.
Sam Harris has a great book on secular spirituality called "Waking Up". His approach to meditation and mindfulness is the purest and least affected by dogma that I've found. Highly recommended.
Thanks! I never seem to find time to read anymore, but I listen to a lot of audiobooks. I'm almost through with The Book of Joy right now, and I will listen to Waking Up next!
Awesome, let me know how you like it. Harris also has a podcast of the same name (Waking Up). It's fantastic, but lately it's mostly been about politics/Trump rather than meditation/mindfulness, but you can dip into the archive for great conversations with really interesting people about a variety of topics. Having said that, his discussions with various people about Trump have been fantastic. He tends to bring on anti-Trump conservatives rather than just progressives (Anne Applebaum and David Frum were both good episodes), which make for some good conversations.
I used to go be an atheist, but than I realize I have no proof their isnt anything just as religious folks have no proof their is something. I subscribe to agnostic now, as in, there could be "a god(s)" that pushed the proverbial button to start everything in motion. But for people to think theyre so important in the vast universe that a god(s) are watching their every move and thought is ludicrous. Even moreso that people today are greedy, cheating, divorcing, and practicing heresy at all time highs and expecting a spot in heaven still because they think they just deserve it for some reason.
Any religious person would probably consider me an atheist, and that's fine, but like you I tend to identify more as agnostic. While I can appreciate how religious mythos can provide individuals with a path to good living (don't kill people, love each other, etc) I think the obsession with the apocalypse and death/the after life can be downright harmful (i.e. why do we need to protect the planet when Jesus will be here soon to take us to heaven, etc.).
But I also find SOMETHING about this life to be sacred. I know it's just chemicals firing in my brain, but I've seen and heard too many things that bring powerful awe and wonder into my life. As such I want my spiritual practices to keep me as present as possible, so when I'm experiencing those moments I'm experiencing them in the moment, not worrying about the past or future. Being mindful also helps me to be mentally present for the people I love. I ain't perfect but I've gotten better.
mid 90s bumper sticker starter pack for rad 17 year olds.
I definitely bought that jesus loves you one to piss of the all bible beaters at my southern high school. but mom wouldn't let me put it on her mini van so it just got buried on my desk and thrown out when I went away to college.
In all seriousness though, I took a really interesting class during undergrad about the psychology of religion. Basiaclly just read lots of stuff from early christian theologians, philosophers, evolutionary biologists, and neuroscience stuff. Ultimately, the main sort of theme was that the "burden" of conciousness brings with it unanswerable questions about purpose and meaning and people either look outward (dogmatic religion) inward (meditation/spiritual etc) or just "turn off" and basically don't assign any deeper or symbolic meaning to things and just sort of "live" according to the social constructs of those around them, e.g. shizty "christians" or everyday joe workin' for the weekend.
I've only properly had In-N-Out once. The fries were fucking awful - easily the worst I've had (reconfirmed last month in TX). Seriously, fix your damn fries, In-N-Out. It's not that difficult. A fry is meant to be a hot, crisp, golden pillar of perfection, a celebration of the divine trinity that is potatoes, fat, and salt. Yours are but a cold, sad, gummy pile of limp potato dicks. This is unacceptable.
The burger was good, but it's still "fast" food. There's probably a cafe / bar / diner / food truck nearby that makes a better one. It was not nearly worth the wait or the hype. That milkshake is kinda legit, though...