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Post by icantenough on Mar 23, 2011 20:30:18 GMT -5
basically, albums that were meant to be listened to from beginning to end... or at least in their entirety (exception for Zaireeka)
Obviously, my sensibilities are not in accordance with the top three forums, so I have decided to banish myself here in hopes of not offending the delicate world of trustafarians (maybe im off to a bad start already...)...
anyway! I dislike any album that isn't an entire work of art. I find most albums today to be sadly lacking in continuity or looking at the grand picture. couple that with the overwhelming campaign of hipsters clawing and clinging to dreadfully generic sounding albums... I decided to post clips from some of what I consider to be the ultimate of mostly overlooked albums by the last 3 generations.
I know I stated before that I wasnt attempting to offend anyone, and I am not, but I truly believe that musical taste can be objective to some degree. now hold on... before you go off on some irate tangent about the individuality and personal expression of music... let me explain. I imagine that every single one of you has a band that you loathe, most likely Spears, nickelback, Beiber.... and you would most likely agree with me that to enjoy those bands it takes a very immature or at least innocence regarding the visceral perception of music. Even so, many of these bands can be enjoyed even if one has a profound disgust of such superficial and vapid lyrics wrapped in nursery rhyme melodies... that is where the subjective comes in. So far be it for me to tell anyone that it is impossible to enjoy any album in its entirety, but from where i stand now in my progression of music, the subsequent posts I make will be regarding works that I find timeless.... and mostly unheard of by those types that claim "music is my life" (ugh.... sickening)
if you have made it this far without Lenoing me... then here are some absolutely gorgeous albums.
Post by icantenough on Mar 23, 2011 20:40:15 GMT -5
I know this doesn't look like the album "Cabaret Manana", but it is the exact same recording.... I just couldn't find anything on youtube.
esquivel was so far ahead of his time. he implemented real light shows in his concerts and was one of the pioneers of experimenting with stereo sounds... so much so, that when Hi-Fi was all the rage, he saw a boost in sales due to all the music shops playing his records to showcase the clarity and depth of hi fidelity stereo systems.
For some of you more hip on the recent scene, you might fall in love with him if you are a fan of combustible edison...
Post by icantenough on Mar 23, 2011 20:45:05 GMT -5
they have a few really good albums out, but I don't feel like they hit their stride until they coalesced much of that into a soundtrack for an ill fated movie of epic genius called "Four Rooms".
while the soundtrack starts out with a few solid full length songs of almost purely instrumental, happy, jazzy feel, it quickly turns to slightly darker excerpts of 30 second clips that keep you on your toes. still, in its entirety it tells its own story, without the movie. as it progresses it gets darker and darker, which reminds me of this album....
Post by icantenough on Mar 23, 2011 20:50:56 GMT -5
if there is any album i can say i have listened to 1000 times, it is this one. Disco Volante. it is argued by many that California is their pinnacle of work, but under the helm of John Zorn on this one, it has more layers and depths than any other album I can think of.
it covers almost every genre with a sense of urgency and jarring uneasiness at times... which is why it disagrees with some people who think that art should only be extreme emotions of either sadness or happiness and not fringe emotions. coupled with a pristine "black box" recording style, it is truly so far ahead of its time I think it will take 50 years for "taste" to catch up with it.
but there is another band that has taken the instrumental lounge vibe and the schitzo-genre mentality and ran with it better than mr bungle at times...
albums that i like, that anyone who wants to call themselves a music buff should know about.
call me pretentious if you want, but these are albums that have been unheard of and disregarded by our, and prior generations.
I realize that many of you would rather slam your dick in a sliding glass door than listen to music "someone else has heard of"... but that is why i decided to tuck this thread out the way. I doubt I will change many minds, or even enlighten any.. because most people are going to choose to dislike or like something long before they every experience it. I have a lot of people that ask me how I find crazy weird music (nothing i have posted so far is in that category IMO).. but I tell them to just listen. when someone tells you to check out a band, check them out, don't sit there acting like you know every band there is worth listening to. I might come off as pretentious or obnoxious on this subject, but I never claim that I have heard the end or penultimate of anything.
so i was bored and I thought I would waste time in here...
Post by icantenough on Mar 23, 2011 21:06:35 GMT -5
if we measured the disparity between genius and being ignored, this band probably takes the cake.
an album born from a running joke while touring the south, turned into a masterpiece. there is one track on this album "Buck Fever" but becomes almost like comedic relief when taken in the context of the entire album. What Estradasphere does that Mr Bungle didnt, is create these amazing transitions rather than "turning the dial". they really worked out a logical way to get from a 6/8 mambo feel to an odd metered metal part then back into big band swing.
Post by icantenough on Mar 23, 2011 21:20:27 GMT -5
with much more international praise an acclaim than any other aforementioned albums... it just saddens me that most people couldn't name more than 2 songs off "tapestry".
not to be a misogynist, but this is probably the greatest female album ever... to date. I challenge anyone to skip a song on this album... its like lays potato chips.
Post by icantenough on Mar 23, 2011 21:26:51 GMT -5
Pontiac by Lyle Lovett.
he gets a lot of flak and his recordings from the 80's are at times more 80's than his haircut... but this is one of those albums that can be easily listened to all the way through. not a bad song in the mix.
I liked how he changes every other song from ballad to a jaunty tune with funny lyrics. kind of reminds me how Richard D james made Drugks.
Post by icantenough on Mar 23, 2011 21:35:21 GMT -5
Book of Horizons is just so ridiculously visceral. I dare you to listen to it and not play an entire movie in your head. there are 2 songs that are considered black metal, which turns many off, but again, in the context it fits the continuity of the album.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
Post by icantenough on Mar 24, 2011 2:13:57 GMT -5
you're right. any other topic of discussion is met with the spiteful wrath of 20-something hippies.
but you gotta admit it takes some kind of testicular fortitude to throw out such statements as "music is objective" on a forum like this... either that or I am a glutton for the Leno's.
It is at that point where I decided the majority of content in this website is hollow sentiments and objectionable opinions vying for CoCo's, so I decided I would holler into the void and see what echo's back. My next ploy is undecided but most likely lies somewhere between sticking wet fingers in ears and tapping people on the opposite shoulder. I think I mostly stick around just because I haven't seen the bottom of what hyperbolic banality looks like... how immensely vapid this generation that was caught between the gay cancer and the Power Glove can be. I am sure by laying this out there most of you will become more niggardly with responses and let your Leno's do the talking.
Post by icantenough on Mar 24, 2011 3:51:06 GMT -5
also, why the strawman? seems to me that first one would need a debate to call out a logical fallacy. unless there is some other really original meme generator that SFA hasn't deprived of Lulz.
also, why the strawman? seems to me that first one would need a debate to call out a logical fallacy. unless there is some other really original meme generator that SFA hasn't deprived of Lulz.
I think he was implying that you are a witch. Are you a witch?
Post by icantenough on Mar 24, 2011 14:50:03 GMT -5
court and spark.
I know that Blue is her most popular album today... like some rite of passage that mothers pass down to their daughters, but I never felt like Blue was a whole album. but at one point this album was considered her best work.
Post by icantenough on Mar 24, 2011 15:03:38 GMT -5
The Lamb Lie Down on Broadway. the last album with Gabriel and Genesis's best work. It is a double disc concept album loosely based on Peter Gabriel's dreams. It eventually evolved into this semi-broadway style performance with lavish costume changes.
the premise of the story is kind of hard to decipher without a little help, but it is mostly about a kid from new york who is on a mission to find his brother, but eventually has to get his penis back from those who stole it and put it in a jar. I don't think he ever finds his brother, or if he even had a brother...
anyway, as out there as the lyrics and concept are, the music and songs flow so well into each other with some remarkable recording feats for its time (see the grand parade)
Post by icantenough on Mar 24, 2011 15:10:38 GMT -5
i think you would be hard pressed to even find this album "Deserts of Traun III: lilac moon". as far as I know, there is not a part 2 or 1. He was writing them backwards.
the animator Colby Bluth made a story board based off the album and proceeded to make that trailer for a movie that most likely will never be made. the recordings are pretty shabby, and some of the black metal interjected throughout can turn quite a few people off, but it fits the overall storyline well.
