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ok i am biased, b/c we all know i love justin bieber (not ashamed).
buuuut i don't really think the idea is that he struggled, more so that he is just a regular kid who made it big b/c of youtube. i think his corny message is that anyone can achieve their dreams.
i will also once again clarify that i would NEVER expect/want/say that he should be at the farm, that is nutty.
Not only is that idea generally not really true, he's a terrible example if it is.
I disagree, Lady gaga is a far worse example of that.
^ you are right it isn't, but i teach kids that live in really horrible situations that many think are already doomed to ride the welfare cycle for the rest of their lives @ 5 yrs old. it is kind of nice for them to have an example to look up to, even if isn't entirely realistic.
also, how is he a terrible example? b/c you don't like his music? if so, that's stupid. he really was discovered on youtube and now he is a multimillionaire @ 16 with thousands of screaming fans. is that going to happen to most people? of course not, but people still play the lottery for millions and you've got just as much chance of winning that as becoming the next "justin bieber".
^ you are right it isn't, but i teach kids that live in really horrible situations that many think are already doomed to ride the welfare cycle for the rest of their lives @ 5 yrs old. it is kind of nice for them to have an example to look up to, even if isn't entirely realistic.
also, how is he a terrible example? b/c you don't like his music? if so, that's stupid. he really was discovered on youtube and now he is a multimillionaire @ 16 with thousands of screaming fans. is that going to happen to most people? of course not, but people still play the lottery for millions and you've got just as much chance of winning that as becoming the next "justin bieber".
Let me put it this way. If you're using Justin Beiber as a positive example to look up to, you're dooming 99.999999999999% of your kids to failure because all of them aren't becoming superstars when they're 16.
The reality is most people don't really hit their peak in life until their 40s. Most great artists don't hit their peak until their 40s. The story of Harry S. Truman is a lot more inspirational to kids than Justin Beiber. He just doesn't have crap songs that get radio play.
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you didn't read anything i said did you? obviously not.
plus, how many kids do you know that look up to dead presidents? and if you are going that route, then a kid shouldn't try to become people like professional athletes, or ANY presidents (you have a FAR less chance of becoming president than a pop star, but who wasn't told you could do that when you were little??).
back to the grammys.....
poor dylan. he really needs to take a break. (i am a little behind, i am DVRing it so i don't have to do commercials)
I applaud you for trying to motivate your underprivileged students, EAP. I get the same population in a different arena (healthcare). I have a new admiration for anyone who breaks loose from the ghetto mentality and makes something of him/herself (legally).
I do agree with the above poster, though. They need to know that dedication and perseverance CAN pay off. And that it's a wonderful thing to be creative as well because that's what makes us human. Just don't encourage them hold false hopes that it's going to make them famous or rich.
^ you are right it isn't, but i teach kids that live in really horrible situations that many think are already doomed to ride the welfare cycle for the rest of their lives @ 5 yrs old. it is kind of nice for them to have an example to look up to, even if isn't entirely realistic.
also, how is he a terrible example? b/c you don't like his music? if so, that's stupid. he really was discovered on youtube and now he is a multimillionaire @ 16 with thousands of screaming fans. is that going to happen to most people? of course not, but people still play the lottery for millions and you've got just as much chance of winning that as becoming the next "justin bieber".
Face it, dreams do not come true...Preach college (as I do with my students), give yourself a pat on the back, and move on.
I do agree with the above poster, though. They need to know that dedication and perseverance CAN pay off. And that it's a wonderful thing to be creative as well because that's what makes us human. Just don't encourage them hold false hopes that it's going to make them famous or rich.
^^That's basically what I'm saying. My family was poor. My dad came from poor white trash. He became an academic and worked hard at it for 20 years, and it wasn't really until his 40s that the decision translated to success.
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^i agree. that's why i teach my kids to work hard....i think they could be the next president OR justin bieber if that's what they wanted. why not teach them to dream big?? (also yes, he is rich and he is famous but he is also doing something he loves, which is just as important, if not more.)
oh gwynnie.....singing with muppets. so stylish.
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^i agree. that's why i teach my kids to work hard....i think they could be the next president OR justin bieber if that's what they wanted. why not teach them to dream big?? (also yes, he is rich and he is famous but he is also doing something he loves, which is just as important.)
oh gwynnie.....singing with muppets. so stylish.
BTW props for teaching kindergarteners. My older sister used to teach bilingual kindergarden for the DISD, and to this day considers it one of the hardest jobs she ever had.
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Doesn't everybody deserve to have the good life? -Dave Matthews Diaraby Magni. -Vieux Farka Toure Nature is the infrastructure of our society. -Roo sign The Road goes on forever and the Party never ends. -Robert Earl Keen That was ridiculous! -Mayer Hawthorne Hopefully this will cool things off. -Dr. Dog, leading into "The Breeze" We're in the middle of our one day tour here. -Jack Black
Doesn't everybody deserve to have the good life? -Dave Matthews Diaraby Magni. -Vieux Farka Toure Nature is the infrastructure of our society. -Roo sign The Road goes on forever and the Party never ends. -Robert Earl Keen That was ridiculous! -Mayer Hawthorne Hopefully this will cool things off. -Dr. Dog, leading into "The Breeze" We're in the middle of our one day tour here. -Jack Black
Post by comfortablyROO on Feb 13, 2011 22:43:44 GMT -5
saw the stones in 05 at giants stadium, incredible show, even from the upper deck on the opposite side of the field, great setlist and they still rock. would love to see them followed by dre/em saturday night
Doesn't everybody deserve to have the good life? -Dave Matthews Diaraby Magni. -Vieux Farka Toure Nature is the infrastructure of our society. -Roo sign The Road goes on forever and the Party never ends. -Robert Earl Keen That was ridiculous! -Mayer Hawthorne Hopefully this will cool things off. -Dr. Dog, leading into "The Breeze" We're in the middle of our one day tour here. -Jack Black