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I feel like it has to but I'm not sure how Jesse finds out unless Walt tells him it in anger or Saul lets something slip to make Jesse suspicious (that is....if Saul knows Walt's connection at all....which I'm not sure).
I'm petty sure Saul knows because he sent Mike to cleanup. This was before Walt could contact Mike himself if memory serves correctly.
Remember the order of events: Jesse wakes up panicked and calls Walt, then Walt calls Saul, and then Saul sends Mike over. As far as anyone outside of Walt is concerned, it was a typical OD and they just had to set up the apartment so Jesse wouldn't see to be an accomplice to her death.
I feel like it has to but I'm not sure how Jesse finds out unless Walt tells him it in anger or Saul lets something slip to make Jesse suspicious (that is....if Saul knows Walt's connection at all....which I'm not sure).
I'm petty sure Saul knows because he sent Mike to cleanup. This was before Walt could contact Mike himself if memory serves correctly.
Right, Saul knows that Mike cleaned up the junkie girlfriend of Jesse but does he know that Walt was present when she died and had a role in it? I couldn't remember and I don't think so but it's possible Saul knows something about it.
I'm petty sure Saul knows because he sent Mike to cleanup. This was before Walt could contact Mike himself if memory serves correctly.
Remember the order of events: Jesse wakes up panicked and calls Walt, then Walt calls Saul, and then Saul sends Mike over. As far as anyone outside of Walt is concerned, it was a typical OD and they just had to set up the apartment so Jesse wouldn't see to be an accomplice to her death.
Yea, that's what I couldn't remember. Wasn't sure if there was a scene that showed anything else in terms of what Saul knows. I really wish I found the time to re-watch the show before Sunday.
I feel like it has to but I'm not sure how Jesse finds out unless Walt tells him it in anger or Saul lets something slip to make Jesse suspicious (that is....if Saul knows Walt's connection at all....which I'm not sure).
I'm petty sure Saul knows because he sent Mike to cleanup. This was before Walt could contact Mike himself if memory serves correctly.
Walt didn't call Saul until after he had already been contacted by Jessie, so I am not even sure that Saul knows that Walt was there when she died. I'm not saying it doesn't come out, but it would have to come from Walt, I think. Also, don't forget about Walt poisoning the kid. Jessie was ready to shoot Walt in the face over that until Walt pawned it off on Gus.
Edit: P.S. I just happened to rewatch that episode the other day with Abra, so it's pretty fresh in my mind.
Oh yea, the kid being poisoned may be the thing that sets Jesse off. Not sure if they need the Jane stuff since they have him poisoning Brock.
I could see it being both. Walt and Jessie's relationship is arguably the most important one in the show. Having all of the stuff Walt has done Jessie wrong on come out would lead to a big conflict between the two.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Aug 7, 2013 11:53:32 GMT -5
Maybe Jesse finds out about BRock and in a heated argument/fight Walt lets it slip that he was involved in the Jane thing too.....maybe to spite Jesse or maybe he lets a detail get out accidentally.
Hey...I'm shoehorning myself into the conversation here, so apologies for that, but I was thinking about this Walt/Jesse denouement the other day and so this is topical.
I was never sure whether Walt's dropping off of the $5 million at Jesse's and the awkward attempts to reminisce about the good old days was feigned or not. It seemed to me more and more as time went by that Walt was so hard on Jesse--after the Fring phase, at least--because he was thinking of Jesse as his son rather than his business partner.
Jesse, though, is obviously horrified by what Walt has become and therefore might not hesitate to have Walt put away or otherwise disposed of, especially if Hank offers him some sort of immunity deal.
But what I can't see is Hank playing it that subtle. He's a very direct guy.
I guess what I'm saying is that I don't buy the Walt vs. Jesse climax without Hank being somehow involved. And I can't see Jesse getting off scot-free, either. In the last few episodes we've been slipping into a Crime and Punishment storyline. Certainly there's some cat-and-mouse between Walt and Hank coming.
Maybe Jesse finds out about BRock and in a heated argument/fight Walt lets it slip that he was involved in the Jane thing too.....maybe to spite Jesse or maybe he lets a detail get out accidentally.
I could see Walt as a last-ditch effort to get Jesse to lose his mind throwing a comment like "oh, btw...Brock? Jane? They died because I let them." or something to that effect at Jesse in a final standoff or something.
Maybe Jesse finds out about BRock and in a heated argument/fight Walt lets it slip that he was involved in the Jane thing too.....maybe to spite Jesse or maybe he lets a detail get out accidentally.
I could see Walt as a last-ditch effort to get Jesse to lose his mind throwing a comment like "oh, btw...Brock? Jane? They died because I let them." or something to that effect at Jesse in a final standoff or something.
Yea, that's how I imagined it happening too. It seemed like they'd reveal it in the "Fly" episode with Walt all loopy from stuff but after that I thought "How will this info come out?" and Walt angrily using it to rub in Jesse's face in the heat of the moment seems possible.
Post by Dave Maynar on Aug 7, 2013 14:41:40 GMT -5
Warming Glow has become Breaking Bad central recently. It has gag reels, interviews, GIFs and glorious countdowns. In case you needed any more proof that this show is the bee's knees. Please read the transcript of a recent interview with Bryan Cranston and Vince Gilligan. (No spoilers... or are they?)
Vince, when did you tell him how the show was going to end?
Bryan Cranston: He didn’t. He told me in script form.
Okay. So what’s your reaction when you got to that point?
Bryan Cranston: Well, I thought I said…
Vince Gilligan: The sex change kind of threw you.
Bryan Cranston: The sex change operation, brilliant, well-couched. There’s no way that anybody could have identified that coming.
Vince Gilligan: There’s meaning in a lot of levels.
She is the one who knocks with knockers.
Bryan Cranston: Yeah, with knockers.
Vince Gilligan: He is the one who has knockers.
Bryan Cranston: And I took my old penis and I stubbed it so I can use it as a blackjack…
We’re going down a bad road.
Vince Gilligan: Do you think there’s anyone who’s done that, by the way? Just kept it?
Bryan Cranston: Kept their penis in a jar?
Vince Gilligan: Or made it into like a Lucite paperweight?
Warming Glow has become Breaking Bad central recently.
I used to love Warming Glow and then the main dude writing for it left to do other things and the people they put in place are nowhere near as good IMO. I remember right after the transition finding a lot of the articles to be shitty compared to what they used to be. I just go straight to Uproxx now pretty much.
But yea, they've got a hard on for the show (and for good reason). I know the rest of my week will be nonstop reminders of it coming back on Sunday.
AMC is running a marathon of Breaking Bad starting from Season 4 in order from Friday through to the new final half season. We're going to watch the last couple of episodes to get back on track. It's been waaaayyyyy too long for me to remember all the details of what was going on when they stopped short.
Warming Glow has become Breaking Bad central recently.
I used to love Warming Glow and then the main dude writing for it left to do other things and the people they put in place are nowhere near as good IMO. I remember right after the transition finding a lot of the articles to be shizzy compared to what they used to be. I just go straight to Uproxx now pretty much.
But yea, they've got a hard on for the show (and for good reason). I know the rest of my week will be nonstop reminders of it coming back on Sunday.
Agreed. I read it more now as a link dump than actually reading any of the articles.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Aug 9, 2013 13:42:52 GMT -5
I love that the show returning is like the biggest thing happening right now. It's literally everywhere I look. I can't avoid ads or articles or videos or anything. So great.
I rewatched the first two episodes the other day. Skylar bugs me even from episode 2. Her wide-eyed looks and condescending tone irk me so much (even though she is sort of justified for being concerned since her husband didn't come home after work, then showed up at night and they banged without much conversation and then he goes into the bathroom and never comes out).
Post by NothingButFlowers on Aug 9, 2013 15:52:01 GMT -5
So, does amc stream the new episodes? We are hoping to move at the end of September and were thinking we'd ditch our DirecTV when we do, but I was wondering how that might affect our ability to watch the last episode or two.
So, does amc stream the new episodes? We are hoping to move at the end of September and were thinking we'd ditch our DirecTV when we do, but I was wondering how that might affect our ability to watch the last episode or two.
I was without cable during Season 4, and I can confirm that they did not stream them for that season. I had to play catch up. Cannot confirm whether or not that is still the case.
Seems like a perfectly acceptable excuse to miss work to me
Haha. I'd consider leaving early if it weren't limited quantities. If I leave on time I may swing by and see if they have any air fresheners left, don't really care about a free car wash.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Aug 9, 2013 20:42:05 GMT -5
Huge thing that stood out to me from the second episode: when Walt wants to flip a coin for who will dispose of Emilio's body and who will kill Krazy 8 we see the first sign that Jesse is not fit to kill others and really, really doesn't want to be part of that. When Walt brings up flipping the coin he immediately interrupts and asks to just dispose the body and he seems really nervous about having to kill Krazy 8. I love how this follows him through the series until he finally has to be the one to pull the trigger on Gale.
Seems like a perfectly acceptable excuse to miss work to me
Haha. I'd consider leaving early if it weren't limited quantities. If I leave on time I may swing by and see if they have any air fresheners left, don't really care about a free car wash.