Post by lizardking0729 on Mar 26, 2007 14:31:37 GMT -5
^ I was really hoping that Good News was just them testing out the commercial waters, I really have an uncanny distaste for hearing that album (though I can't say it's worse than anything else coming out right now). I was looking forward to the release of the new album, hoping that the band would take this opportunity to capitalize on their (established with Good News) commercial success, and throw a bone to their old fans, as well as expose to those who may have just heard Good News, maybe Moon & Ant., that they are much more than a faux indie-post-punk band to be catergorized with the likes of Franz Ferdinand. But this album just reaffirmed my "worst case scenario" for this band: Sell-out. I hate to be cliche, but damn, man, is this really the best that they should be doing?!?
I would be hard pressed to find anyone (ANYONE)who can say that this holds a near-dead match to the earlier stuff.
I will give them a few more years or so, and if their output isn't getting any better, I'll say to hell with Modest Mouse.
Edit: quote: I find vagueness in your argument for the new album because you said you liked good news because at least it had some catchy fun stuff (which is the poppy stuff on that album) but that is not what Modest Mouse originally was about. I think this album strikes closer to the older stuff than Good News did. Granted it seems they have taken a little bit of a safer and less expiramental approach to their music, but I think it falls in line more with the older stuff I loved than with Good News...IMHO
I NEVER said I liked Good News, I said at least it had some catchy albums, even though i disliked it.
I Never said that you never said you liked it, I only stated that you said the parts of good news you liked were the catchy parts and that is not what the first albums are like at all IMO...just making an observation...
Post by bojangles22 on Mar 26, 2007 16:21:18 GMT -5
I liked "good news" cus it had some diferent stuff, and most of it is enjoyable to listen to still. It didn't seem all that commercial to me either. and i think at this point.. words like sell- out have no meaning to me, it's either good or bad. When i listen to a highly anticipated album i'm sometimes dissapointed because i "think" i "know" what i wanna hear (the old stuff) so for the first listen I try to pretend i've never herd of the band. and make comparisons to the older stuff later.
Post by lizardking0729 on Mar 26, 2007 21:42:10 GMT -5
I like the music because it is made by a band that I love, and it is really hard for me to be biased negatively towards such a band...There is no Modest Mouse album that i would give below a 7 (out of 10)...If I had to rank MM albums I would put it as follows...
1.This is a Long Drive... 2.Lonesome Crowded West 3.Moon & Antarctica 4.Everywhere & His Nasty Parlor Tricks 5.Sappy Sad Sucker 6.We Were Dead Before The Ship Even Sank 7.Building Nothing Out Of Something 8.Good News... 9.The Fruit That Ate Itself
Although All of these albums are very enjoyable...Also, I never meant to offend any MM fans with my comments, just tryin to be objective and I have history with this band and take them very seriously (after listening to them for 10 years I have formed serious interest in this band that will probably never be broken...which is the reason I was first row in 05 for their show...)
Post by poopzilla33 on Mar 26, 2007 22:46:04 GMT -5
i'll list mine too ;D
1.the moon and anarctica 2.good news... 3.lonesome crowded west 4.building nothing out of something 5.this is a long drive... 6.sad sapy sucker 7.everywhere and his nasty parlor tricks 8.we were dead before the ship even sank 9.the fruit that ate itself
1. Lonesome Crowded West (one of the best albums of all time, if you ask me, like top 50) 2. This Is A Long Drive ( I loved how raw it was, and the general concept of the songs were awesome great driving record as many have said.) 3. Moon And Antarctica 4. Fruit That Ate Itself 5. Sad Sappy Sucker.
Post by lizardking0729 on Mar 27, 2007 19:26:06 GMT -5
BTW, how was the 05 roo show, MM fans? I've heard very mixed things of it...
Technical difficulties made the show a little less appealing but I thought it was good...Some people show up at MM shows expecting something that they dont do which is play Float On 50 times over...This guy behind me at the show kept saying "Where are they getting these songs from, are they all covers?" so I had to turn around and yell at him cuz I have had 2 MM shows with guys like that near me and it annoys me (minorly music snobbish on my part, but i cant help it). They did have some good songs that they played though...They brought roadies and stuff out to play on 'Good Times Are Killing Me' which was pretty cool, people were just banging on random things. Did what they could wit the time alloted, but played some of my favs like Cowboy Dan, Break Through and Doin The Cockroach so I enjoyed it. Seen better MM shows but was very enjoyable (ive never been disappointed at a MM show)
I will say it... to hell with the new Modest Mouse. A polished, over-produced mess of an album. Good News... was where it started. I am not bitter about the popularity of the group, or even the songwriting itself, but there needs to come a point in which bands begin realizing that a heap of emotion and personality gets lost when you add 35 tracks to over-compensate for an already beautiful sound. Minimalism folks. Less is more.
"All in all, the creative act is not performed by the artist alone.. the spectator brings the work in contact with the external world by deciphering and interpreting its inner qualifications and thus adds his contribution to the creative act." -- Marcel Duchamp
mostly talking about the cutting incident, but check this out!
"Brock also revealed that the band plans on releasing an EP of songs that didn't make it onto their new album, We Were Dead Before The Ship Even Sank. "They’re really good songs, a couple of my favorite songs didn’t make it to the record, but they’ll be coming out when we have a chance to get them together. Not a clue when that’ll be," Brock told VH1. Some of the tracks in consideration include "Autumn Beds," "Tie The Lake Down" and "Whale Song."
Post by dogfighter28 on Apr 25, 2007 17:44:21 GMT -5
All their albums are good. Moon and Antarctica >= Lonesome Crowded West > Long Drive > We Were Dead >=Good News
Its a very close spread though. Their lowest would be either a 7 or 8 out of 10 for me.
The new album is frustrating, because everything up to "We've Got Everything" is FANTASTIC, perhaps the best stretch of music released this year. However, "Steam Ingenius", "Fly Trapped in a Jar", and "Education" simply aren't up to snuff.
I think the song "spitting venom" encapsulates my feelings on the album. The song has a very good premise, its good, but it just goes on for too long without merit. Incredibly consistent, but few HOLY shiz moments, if any at all.